I agree with everything you said. I just have a feeling that bringing pundits to Fairfield hasn't been high on M's priority list. He mainly agreed to it because Bob Wynne was so enthusiastic.
on 3/28/05 12:50 AM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 3/28/05 12:04 AM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> Hagelin may be deriving some sincerity from the wish expressed > that >>> the yagyas being performed by the pundits in India will make it >>> possible for the 500 pundits to somehow get permission to come to > the >>> USA, but as it stands right now, the U.S. State Dept. has rejected >>> 1000 applicants from the pool of pundits in India, and there is > very >>> little possibility of the pundits ever being admitted. >>> > > >> It sounded to me like MMY was placating Bob Wynne. He doesn't like > to say no >> to people directly. It's an Indian cultural thing. Say yes so as > not to hurt >> their feelings (or make yourself uncomfortable) even though you > have no >> intention of doing the thing. Bob took him at his word and > published the >> conversation. I've gotten the impression all along that the pundit > thing >> here was the result of Bob badgering MMY on the idea, and that the > latter >> was never overly enthused about it. > > ************* > > You're overlooking clear evidence that the visas were not granted, > and if the TMO built a $4.5 million trailer park and sought the visas > and the pundits are not coming only because the visas were denied, > then all the talk about Maharishi saying that the pundits should not > come now because of the parents' concern about safety is just a cover > story. > > The fact is, everybody, MMY and the whole TM mgmt crew, wanted the > pundits to come, but the job was botched. MUM's lawyer was saying in > 2003 that he was getting assurances from the highest level of the > State Dept that the visas were no problem, but I had published a > report from the June 2003 issue of Scientific American noting that > low-level employees make visa decisions, and those decisions cannot > be overturned even by the Secretary of State > http://geocities.com/bbrigante/pundits.html#sciam -- if the TMO had > bothered to consult with immigration attorneys, they would have found > that the pundits' poverty was indeed a problem (actually MUM has had > visa problems before with real college students from India, guys who > speak English, unlike the uneducated pundits > http://www.mum.edu/TheReview/02-03/1-22-03.html#3 ), and if MUM had > tried to get 25 or so visas before building the campus in Vedic City, > then this whole ridiculous situation of having a useless trailer park > could have been avoided. Obviously some use will be found for it > eventually, but for now it's a half-paid-for bunch of metal boxes > that have no purpose, and it's likely to make donors real unhappy > that their money was thrown away by the typical bone-head play of TM > management. > > The TMO is always going off half-cocked like this -- the big dog-and- > pony show to the island of Rota is just one of the many foolish > spectacles enabled by a failure to talk with expert lawyers in the > relevant field and a grandiose sense that yogic flyers who can't fly > will be able to talk their way out of anything: > > http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.html#gradual > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 http://searchsummit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
