--- In [email protected], "lurkernomore20002000"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > Fred is quite a character and a very good guy .... 
> 
> Who is Fred?
> 


Fred is a retired Air Force Major from SAC who was injured by a car
bomb in Quebec around 1968 or so. Been meditating since 1971 just
missed TTC after a runaround. Spends a lot of time with the meditating
Trappists in GA and took SCI with MMY and Dr Pete in Canada in about
1972. A real character and a good friend. He'll be joining us here in
a few months if I can get him to turn on his new computer. 
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> some interesting run ins with the
> > 'movement' (over $$ and an agreements that they broke...). A local
> > small town here with 1%... and the rest is history.
> 
> Don't mean to be nosy, but would you care to share what exactly 
> happened?
> 
> lurk


Let's see if I can recall what happened, Lurk. 

 In Oct of 1977 I went to the first siddhi's course this side of the
Atlantic at MIU (with the faculty, although I wasn't). It was supposed
to be 2 or 3 months (can't remember) come home for a while then go
back for another month to learn flying. 
 
 Due to the fact that everyone was spontaneously hopping without the
technique, an additional month wa offered without the break. If one
signed an agreement to teach so many  people (can't remenber the
number maybe 100 ) you could get the extra month at $750 instead of
$1000 then get the usual ATR credit back as cash. But until the
obligation was fulfilled - no courses. Well I went back to running a
local center and teaching 1 and 2 at a time. About 2 years pass...
Everyone has their ATR credits canceled. Me too, so I thought. I apply
for a 2 wk ATR. I was told no, I had not meet my obligation. They said
pay the discount difference that you got, and you can go. I said no,
"I'll initiate 2 more, meet my commitmant and take the cash." They
were surprised.  I did initiate 2 more, and asked for the cash
(otherwise with the ATR credit cancelled I would have lost it all). I
asked for the cash (about $1650 or so) - they hemmed and haawed. Nine
months latter I mentioned the word 'lawyer' in a letter. They took it
seriously, and sent the cash. Then National proceeded to refuse me
admittance to a residence course even though I was teaching regularly.
(Sending about 20 or so to siddhi's and 4 or more to TTC.) I was 
still running a center in those days mostly on my own cash. 

  They were spiteful about it too. They would take my recommendees no
problem, but when I went to get an advanced technique with about 300
others (including people that I had taught and recommended), I waited
all day. They told me that they could not verify that I was a
meditator! Just then my intiator walks in, and I ended up being
instructed last!  It was a valuable lesson ;) 

  After a while they would call and pitch courses. I said that I
wanted to be prequlified in writing no more funnny business. And for
the few remaining courses that I went on - that worked. They did keep
taking people from my area on courses and TTC etc, no problem.

  
I did keep teaching here and there and there until 5 or 8 years ago or
so always do enjoy that... Guess I'm an 'official' renegade now....  

Thats the story and I'm sticking to it ;) 
 

JohnY






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