On Mar 29, 2005, at 6:53 PM, rudra_joe wrote:
> I think they've depersonalized with Shamballah training. Naropa had an > interesting psychology department. Though I had pure motivation at MIU > I was very messed up mentally and had to rejuvinate. I didn't have the > stillness of mind to get into rushan-like practices. As if. > I read an account in _Secrets of the Vajra World_ of someone going into the three year retreat in the Shambhala tradition and I was very impressed. Very deep--certainly far beyond anything in the TMO. And these were people who were in some cases married. In some cases they would break the retreat so some could return to work/family and later return. They did a great job putting much of the liturgy (except mantras of course) into English. I honestly think that is what gets many Dharma purists up in arms. But its a good solid system. As a bizarre twist--and a strange TMO comparison--some of the levels of the Shambhala training require vows of obedience to the "king/raja" of that organization--essentially the guru of the org. I feel that most of the animosity leveled towards this org is from Dharma purist snobs. Some of the best meditators I have ever met came from their tradition. It would be my choice for an alternative education other than going to Dzogchen monastery or Dolanji (neither is which is "accredited"). -V. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
