I once spoke to this guy who explained what happend to him when he
made the leap into CC.
Suddenly 'it' just happened - like a bolt of lightning from a blue
sky. He 'was' everything; he 'knew' everything - he hade come 'home.'
There was nothing else that he could wish for or obtain.
The list of adjectives were longer, but this was the order he said it
came to him. Also the 'experience' was totally new, unlike anything
that had previously happened to him - the guy was toally blissed and
totally clueless.
Then, the question arose: What is this..? What happened..?
In sesponse to the questions, the intellect kicked in and phrases
found in MMY's the Science of Being popped up (the guy is a fairly
recent TM-initiate with no experience of the TMO).
A phrase that popped up and which described what he 'saw' was 'the
Absolute dancing in the Relative'. Other than that there were
confirmations of Being everything; Being total fullness, yet this I,
this Being, did not exist - it was unborn.
The process of understanding ended with a giant - "So THIS is what
Maharishi means..!!"
Reading the postings on this site on FFL makes me wonder if not the
incessant talking and over-intellectualization is actually an obstacle
to realization.
Probably better of spending the time meditating..
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Very nicely conveyed!
>
> <applause>
>
> On Apr 1, 2005, at 2:44 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote:
>
> > Yes, of course there is a "reality of the subject
> > and object" within the phenomenological context of
> > waking state prior to liberation. Within the
> > phenomenological context of liberation, they don't
> > exist. What I'm critiquing is the possible
> > misapprehension of a phenomenological description of
> > liberation as a method or means to achieve such
> > liberation. Within waking state there is dualism. This
> > is the phenomenological reality. Teachings function
> > within the context of this dualism to transcend the
> > dualism. Dualistic teaching are useful fictions that
> > stop serving a purpose once liberation is realized. Of
> > course there is no personal enlightenment. But when
> > there is a subject or personal self, as there is in
> > waking state prior to liberation, enlightenment is
> > understood in terms of the value such a condition will
> > have for "me." It is impossible to understand it any
> > other way. So one engages in a sadhana to bring about
> > liberation. It's all "me, me, me." If the sadhana is
> > effective it finally transcends itself and then the
> > fiction of "me" is rather obvious. But the starting
> > point for liberation is ignorance. And in this
> > ignorance is an individual me that strives to become
> > liberated. It is only after liberation that the
> > fiction of "me" and any "effort of me" is clearly seen
> > as absurdly false.
> > That being said, I believe that there are
> > thousands of people within the TM community that have
> > been "techniqueing" for 20 to 40 years that are not
> > liberated. No more meditation or any technique or
> > yagya or proper vastu will bring about liberation.
> > They are "stuck" in sattva. For these people a final
> > discrimination between Self and not-Self is needed and
> > the non-dual teachings of Mr. Parsons can be
> > profoundly useful for such people. It is for the ones
> > just starting a sadhana that non-dual teachings can
> > create quite a bit of cofusion. For them the useful
> > fiction of the dualistic teaching, I believe, will be
> > more effective.
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