That's what I like about MMY: it's the Whole Thing, the Real Thing -
and no philosophical bs-ing.
--- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Awakening is intensely personal and experiential. People like Bob and
> Vaj who argue over the dogma of awakening only show that awakening
> is neither personal nor experiential for them.
>
> --- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> > You might be in pain since Vaj is destroying your illusions
> regarding
> > TMO-TM-MMY. I believe you prefer your dream world to continue
> > uninterrupted :)
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Bob Brigante"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 1, 2005, at 9:12 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The litmus test for CC remains witnessing sleep, the last
> > > > > stop in stabilizing life of living one's unlimited awareness
> at
> > all
> > > > > times, even during the torpor of sleep (or death of the body,
> > for
> > > that
> > > > > matter).
> > > >
> > > > I think if you check MMY's commentary on the Gita, you will
> find
> > that
> > > > he states this is a precursor of CC (as well as a feature of
> the
> > > > eventual state). "Witnessing" (despite being a lousy choice of
> > word)
> > > > can happen--and usually does happen before "CC". Please don't
> go
> > > > telling people that they are in CC just because they are
> > witnessing,
> > > > because this is misleading in the extreme. Later TM literature
> > like
> > > the
> > > > Journal of Vedic Studies reiterates this philosophy.
> > >
> > > **********
> > >
> > > You know, I rarely bother with your posts, but, really, referring
> > me to
> > > the Gita commentary without giving a specific reference (and
> there
> > > isn't one that supports your point) goes beyond your usual lazy
> and
> > > arrogant nonsense, so I'd like to congratulate you on setting a
> new
> > > benchmark for buffoonery -- not easy to do on a list like this.
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