--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonderful post. This is the path of discriminating > buddhi from purusha.
> -Peter That would be the case with Patanjali on your mind. But Shankara appears to be hitting it from another perspective. See for your self. http://www.realization.org/page/namedoc0/vc/vc_0.htm He does offer up a "new" subtle yet profound twist on a familiar analogy that may be along the lines of discriminating between the most refined state of buddhi, buddhi-satva, from purusha. He says the Sun lights up the jar of water, and there is a full reflection of the Sun on the surface of the water. I have understood, perhaps incorrectly, MMY using this analogy to make the correspondence between Self / Atman and Brahman, Atman is the reflection of the Brahman, the Sun. Atman is Brahman "associated with" a jiva, relected off the purified nervous system -- the jar of water. Sankara, in Crest Jewel, says the full brilliant reflection of the SUN is maya, a construct of ignorance. The brillant, true to life relection is NOT Brahamn (or Atman). Only the Sun is Brahman. Its a huge point. So even the 100% reflection of Brahman in creation, that looks as bright and full as Brahman, is false, is not Brahman, is ignorance. And its this fine subtle distinction that is the last covering of ignorance. > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > A few excerpts fform the Crest Jewel of > > Discrimination -- Shankara > > > > > > Action is for the purification of the mind, not for > > the understanding > > of reality. The recognition of reality is through > > discrimination, and > > not by even tens of millions of actions. 11 > > > > Proper analysis leads to the realisation of the > > reality of the rope, > > and this is the end of the pain of the fear of the > > great snake caused > > by delusion. 12 > > > > The realisation of the truth is seen to depend on > > meditation on > > statements about what is good, not on bathing or > > donations or by > > hundreds of yogic breathing exercises. 13 > > > > It is the wise and learned man, skilled in sorting > > out the pros and > > cons of an argument who is really endowed with the > > qualities necessary > > for self-realisation. 16 > > > > Discriminating and dispassionate, endowed with peace > > and similar > > qualities, and longing for liberation - such is the > > man who is > > considered fit to practise seeking for God. 17 > > > > The wise talk here of four qualities, possessed of > > which one will > > succeed, but without which one will fail. 18 > > > > First is listed discrimination between unchanging > > and changing > > realities, and after that dispassion for the > > enjoyment of the fruits > > of action both here and hereafter, and then the > > group of six qualities > > including peace and of course the desire for > > liberation. 19 > > > > "God is the Truth and the world is unreal." It is > > this realisation > > that is considered discrimination between the > > permanent and the > > impermanent. 20 > > > > Supreme understanding springs from meditating on the > > meaning of > > Vedanta, and that is followed immediately by the > > elimination of the > > pain of samsara. 45 > > > > Linked with ignorance, your supreme self has become > > involved in the > > bonds of non self, and from that in samsara. The > > fire of the knowledge > > born from discriminating between these two will burn > > out the > > consequences of ignorance along with its very root. > > 47 > > > > The cessation of that wrong identification is > > achieved by right > > understanding, and by no other means. Right > > understanding is held by > > scripture to be the recognition of the oneness of > > God and oneself. 202 > > > > This recognition is achieved by right discrimination > > between what is > > truly oneself and what is not, so one must develop > > this discrimination > > between the conventional self and one's true self. > > 203 > > > > To overcome the outward-turning power of the mind is > > hard to > > accomplish without completely eliminating the > > veiling effect, but the > > covering over one's inner self can be removed by > > discriminating > > between seer and objects, like between milk and > > water. Absence of an > > barrier is finally unquestionable when there is no > > longer any > > distraction caused by illusory objects. 344 > > > > Perfect discrimination, born of direct experience > > establishing the > > truth of the distinction between seer and objects, > > severs the bonds of > > delusion produced by Maya (the creative power, which > > makes things > > appear to exist), and as a result the liberated > > person is no longer > > subject to samsara. 345 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. 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