Hi,
Just to clarify what I meant by a rising of the collective awareness, it is something which is directly experiential to me. I actually seem to feel it happening. The lightening of the atmosphere. With regards to correlating that to actual world events or activities around God help us that man Bush, I haven't noticed much of a correlation- very hit or miss, see what you want to see right now. I liken it to any early stage phase transition; watching water cool from 150 degrees (F) to 40 degrees (F) not much change visible, though huge change actually occuring at a subtler level. Thanks, Jim --- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I admit I didn't have much interest in this thread when it first turned up, but on > reflection I did find something in my own experience that resonated; the difference, > however, had to do with how I conceptualized it. That is, I did notice a change, but at this > point I can't attribute it to "rising collective consciousness". > > Collective consciousness definitely was deteriorating throughout most of last year. I > attribute this to the war in Iraq and the bitterly divisive election campaign. Also, in my > opinion, a growing feeling among ordinary people that nothing is working the way it's > supposed to. In particular, there was a huge underlying fear that the election could > degenerate into a complete failure; some people even feared martial law could be imposed > if things got too far out of control. > > My reading of the election result was that the American public was more comfortable with > a faked election that at least looked somewhat normal than a real election that upset the > status quo; specifically, the idea of a contested election, as in 2000, or worse, really had > this country worried. > > I began to notice the relaxation shortly after the first of the year; it progressed noticeably > after the State of the Union message. My interpretation, once again, was that the > APPEARANCE of normalcy was a great relief to all. > > This effect extended to many countries around the world, where governments began to > cautiously give Bush the benefit of the doubt. Some potentially good developments were > seen in the Middle East, as well. > > I believe that this corresponds with what you have observed, but as I stated earlier, my > interpretation is different. From having observed current events for several decades, it is > clear to me that current events and collective consciousness have seasons and cycles just > like other phenomena. A little bit of a breather from time to time is normal even in Kali > Yuga. However, I have seen no significant changes to the underlying structure of things, > therefore I would expect that this breather will not last long and that more bad times are > just around the corner. > > You have connected this positive change with the installation of the Rajas. I have reasons > of my own for doubting this, but of course, we are all entitled to our points of view. It > seems to me that there is a pattern to Maharishi's predictions on things of this nature: He > identifies a time in the future (evidently based on Jyotish predictions) when things are > expected to be better, and he schedules an event around that time, the result of which is > that the event is given credit for the improvement. It's like drawing the target around the > arrow, so to speak. > > The short summary: Yes, I agree that the atmosphere has lightened up a bit; however, I > think it is only temporary. I rather expect things to get much worse in the foreseeable > future, and that none of these TMO programs will be found to have had a significant > positive effect. This, of course, will all be explained away and forgotten by the TMO as the > next fundraiser rolls in with its attendant promises of saving the world. > > If the movement proves me wrong in the coming months, I will cheerfully and gratefully > acknowledge as much. What we are doing here is lodging our predictions. > > L B S > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Yes, actually. As I said my experiences have been about the same as > > always but I notice the world's atmosphere seems to be changing for > > everyone. > > > > --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am curious if others have had a similar experience > > > > to mine from > > > > the beginning of this year 2005: > > > > > > > > Some context: These days I try to live in a very > > > > ordinary way. By > > > > that I mean two daily meditations and thats it; no > > > > sutras, residence > > > > courses, alternative diet or other hubub. The reason > > > > being I find it > > > > is much easier to gauge the state of the collective > > > > consciousness > > > > when I am not attempting to inordinately speed mine > > > > up or down. > > > > > > > > (As an aside, I did find as many here have that my > > > > experiences with > > > > the TMO were limiting. I characterized the mindset > > > > of 'the faithful' > > > > at the time as "unbounded awareness is great, but > > > > enough is > > > > enough...". Just to be clear though, I have never > > > > doubted a word of > > > > Maharishi's or the presence of Guru Dev. Skeptical > > > > of those two > > > > fellows I am not.) > > > > > > > > Anyway, I have tried to baseline my consciousness or > > > > the growth of > > > > my consciousness to better discern the rise of the > > > > collective > > > > awareness on Earth. > > > > > > > > What I clearly noticed right around the time of > > > > Maharishi's > > > > Coronation of the Rajas, was a very concrete > > > > lightening of the > > > > environment, as if the sky has gotten higher and a > > > > great weight has > > > > lifted, as if a blanket of dirt over the Earth is > > > > dissolving like an > > > > old spider web full of holes, as if the thought > > > > waves in the > > > > environment are more coherent, cleaner. > > > > > > > > At the same time, there is light coming from within > > > > the Earth out, > > > > and from outer space, down. > > > > > > > > I've noticed that the silence underlying activity > > > > has become much > > > > richer, less dull, more shiny, more lively. This has > > > > caused my > > > > subjective perception of time to become very very > > > > slow, so that one > > > > day lasts at least a lifetime now. > > > > > > > > I have certainly noticed a deepening of my > > > > experience before, but it > > > > has always been just me. This time it feels like > > > > others may be aware > > > > of it as well, even gasp non-meditators. > > > > > > > > Has anyone else noticed this remarkable rise of > > > > collective > > > > consciousness this year? > > > > > > Other than all occuring inside of Self as a dream, no, > > > not much of anything. You? > > > -Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > Yahoo! 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