--- In [email protected], "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>

>
>
> --- In [email protected], "easyone200"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Bob,
> > The God-Like pedestal you put Maharishi on, while at the same
> time
> making him an
> > impotent prisoner in his own movement makes one think you are
> on
> drugs and some
> > mighty powerful ones at that!
>
> **********
>
> Well, thank you...I'll have another scoop of soma with some
> amrita on
> top, please.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------
>

>

>
> Seriously, Bob, do you believe those two concepts were actually
> drugs originally? I do.
>
> -Mark

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The soma plant (which is produced in the body of enlightened people)
is also found very rarely on the slopes of the Himalayas (description
of the plant's life cycle given in Chopra's first book, "Return of
the Rishi").

Amrita was churned up by the gods and is not found on earth except a
few drops fell to earth (kumbh mela sites) in the fight between the
gods and demons over possession of this nectar of immortality:
http://www.hindunet.org/festivals/kumbha_mela/

All other attempts by westerners to say one or the other of these
items is marijuana or mushrooms or whatever is just nonsense by
people who don't know the Vedic literature. But suit yourself (and
I'm sure you will) -- it's less important to know the origin of these
substances than it is to actually produce them in one's own nervous
system through expanded awareness by regular practice of TM.


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Bob,

 

I’ll take that as a “no”, but are you open to discussing it?

 

Here, let me tempt you:

 

Far from nonsense, the people who came up with the drug-soma theories derived them from Vedic literature. To do that, I assume they had to “know the literature”. Look, it doesn’t take a degree in philology to read the Rig Veda and see soma described as an obvious drug over and over.

 

How about we begin by studying word meanings? Not only “soma” and “amrita”, but also words like “Rasayana” and “Vajrayana”. Don’t you want to hear about their root meanings?

 

Knowing that the Rig Veda is the foundation, but also knowing that you can’t read much of it without seeing soma described as an obvious drug over and over – how are so many able to do so much denying? I can much more easily see a few Bible passages open to interpretation, but soma texts are incredibly numerous and repetitive – with very little room for alternative translations.

 

-Mark




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