--- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2005, at 10:57 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> > The whole purpose of scientific research is to avoid having to 
rely
> > on anecdotal evidence. I've never taken any anti-depressants,
> 
> That's obvious.
> 
> >
> > Your comments about only over-prescribed anti-depressants being
> > responsible for either lack of results or negative results is not
> > supported by the research.
> 

> Utter nonsense.

So where's the research supporting your claim, Sunshine?


> 
> > The fact is, talk therapy is just as
> > effective as anti-depressants for making people feel better
> > temporarily
> 


> More nonsense.  I've noticed when you cite, it's usually from 
journals 
> that have little or nothing to do with anything medical.

That's very funny, since the citation I offered was clearly medical 
research conducted at the University of Pennsylvania and Vanderbilt U.

   In fact, 
> anti-depressants have helped millions, whether they believed they 
could 
> do any good or not.  Your placebo effect theory has no basis 
whatsoever 
> in reality.
> 

You clearly are invested in the notion that anti-depressants have 
helped you, and that's OK, but you are just not making rational 
responses to the American Psychological Research I cited which 
clearly shows that so-called anti-depressants are no more effective 
than placebos:


http://www.journals.apa.org/prevention/volume5/pre0050023a.html


> > (in the long run, only transcending thru TM could
> > possibly make one feel better -- depression means a lack of
> > experience of one's nature, bliss consciousness):
> 

> It must be nice, I guess, to live in some alternate reality in 
which if 
> you repeat something over and over, it magically becomes true.  Or 
> something like that.

Sunshine, that land of alternate reality is clearly yours, not mine. 
When you get off the Prozac, please feel free to resume your practice 
of TM.





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