--- In [email protected], off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > Ultimately, what must be accomplished, is breath must stop to > > > really > > > > "get behind reality". It's a death really. Death while living. > > > > > > Yes, familiar with that death. Not positive it was accompanied > at > > > that time by complete stoppage of breath -- it might have been. > > > Complete stoppage is apparently not necessary now for seeing > through > > > reality; attention is. Stoppage is also very nice though. > > > > > > Then > > > > jivan-mukti--liberation-while-living is possible. Tom and I > were > > > > talking on this last week and he added the really relevant > point > > > is > > > > that many who achieve liberation or approach it importantly, > all > > > have > > > > died and come back. We agreed that some can do this > consciously. > > > But > > > > death--stopping breath and stopping time--is key. > > > > > > Yes, I am not so sure that it is always shorter breaths and > stoppage > > > (though that be often the case), so much as subtler and subtler > > > ones -- not necessarily shallower. The onset of peaceful > currents of > > > attention, maybe. I am not so quick to completely equate prana > with > > > breath at all nowadays -- Pranaflow (in its various forms, > including > > > electromagnetic, either within or without this physical body) > seems > > > somewhat more to be a function of attention than specifically > breath. > > > > ****** > > > > > > From my Taoist practice I know there is a quality of breath > characterized by frictionless > > flow, whether the cycle is extremely rapid or extremely slow. I > call this the celestial breath, > > based on my recollection of a story MMY told once. A bunch of guys > did tapas and refined > > their breathing so much that they were able to sneak into an > assembly of angels. The > > angels sniffed them out (literally, detected their odor) and they > had to leave. > > > > L B S > > > > Are you sure your not thinking of Jay Lathom and that time he walked > right into a Maharishi Nagar univited, unannounced, and sat right > next to Maharishi?
%%%%%%%%%% The similarities are there, but they are somewhat superficial. Jay actually had more right to be there than the guys who threw him out. L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
