--- In [email protected], "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "easyone200" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > on 4/10/05 12:58 PM, easyone200 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > >> on 4/10/05 12:45 AM, easyone200 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>> What is the possibility that you created this experience 
for 
> > yourself due to
> > > > >>> your 
> > > > >>> overwhelming desire or expectation. M is a con man at 
least 
> > 99.99% of the
> > > > >>> time, let's just
> > > > >>> make that 100% and give yourself credit for your own 
good 
> > experiences. Ditto
> > > > >>> for the rest 
> > > > >>> of these guru con artists.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Have you ever been with him in person - close proximity?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes. Many times.
> > > > 
> > > > You didn't feel or don't remember feeling the darshan? You 
think 
> > he's just a
> > > > mere con man dressed in white robes?
> > > I had few blissful experiences the most powerful one was 
during a 
> > puja. Does this mean I 
> > > don't think he is a crook? No. I think we are all capable of 
> > generating these experiences 
> > > within ourselves. They are extremely powerful. When we 
associate 
> > them with a person, you 
> > > get a cult of personality or a religion. Wether the object of 
your 
> > worship is sinister or just a 
> > > plain old crook determines how  much of your life is taken 
> > advantage of or destroyed. It is 
> > > similar to a parent that sexually abuses a child. Despite 
knowing 
> > what has been done to 
> > > them the child still loves the parent and tries forever to 
> > integrate how that all powerful 
> > > loving parental figure could be so horrific and destructive to 
> > them. They can't do it and 
> > > this conflict destroys their lives almost all of the time.
> > >  These gurus take our spiritual yearning and pervert it for 
their 
> > own selfish sick desires. 
> > > Wether it is money or sex or just getting off on the power. 
Look 
> > at the bizarre lengths 
> > > some of the people here go to justify the actions of 
Maharishi. I 
> > thing Brigante wins the 
> > > prize on this group for the most complete disconnect from the 
> > reality of Maharishi's 
> > > actions and who he thinks he is! OMG a web site devoted to how 
M 
> > is ok and those around 
> > > him are responsible for all the bad stuff of the TMO. I think 
he 
> > even has footnotes. It is 
> > > probably a daily struggle for him and causes him much 
heartache 
> > (I'm sure he will 
> > > disagree.)  I am sure there is the occasional guru figure that 
has 
> > good motives and tries to 
> > > do something for people. I don't think this happens very often 
> > because they would not try 
> > > to be gurus and specially revered if they were not egomaniacs 
or 
> > pathological in some 
> > > way.
> > > easyone>>>
> > 
> > 
> > easyone:
> > 1. Did you ever practice Maharishi's yogic flying? 
> > 2. Did you hop sometimes as a spontaneous, non-physical intent? 
> > 3. What were your most memorable inner experiences during yogic 
> > flying?
> > 4. Did you have interesting or nice (out of the ordinary - not 
every 
> > day nice such as too much coffee or something), once a week on 
> > average or more?
> > 5. Did you notice a difference in a large group, as opposed to 
being 
> > on your own?
> This is all irrelevant to me.

Why?





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