--- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Most of these experiences happen in dreams. And numerous other encounters with the Master Jesus and Maitreya the Christ happens in bright daylight. Please see: http://www.shareintl.org > Sparrow speculates on why that may be. > > He breaks the experiences into different categories, such as Initiation, Physical > Healing, Emotional Healing, Instruction, Confrontation and Confirmations. > > It's a sweet read. From what the people interviewed relate, the stories seem to be > much more than mere wishful thinking. But one must wonder. Jesus seems to take > on whatever form people need at the time. > > I have to think these experiences are fabricated by the divine aspect of the > dreamer. For example, an old high school friend of mine told me I came to her in a > dream to comfort and heal her. If I recall it correctly, the story goes like this: > > My fried had a very difficult pregnancy with her youngest child. One night she went > to bed feeling she could not deal with the discomfort any longer. She fell asleep, > and I came to her in a dream and told her everything would be all right. She > immediately felt an overwhelming peace. Upon awakening, the discomfort returned, > but some aspect of the peace remained. > > The boy was born, and turned out to be an angel. A really sweet, easy-to-care-for > kid. > > The notion that I visited her is preposterous, to say the least. But I was flattered to > be cast in that role by my friend's subconscious. > > - Patrick Gillam > > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "For added pleasure, read this post-- Dream Knowledge" to the tune of > > 'Dream Lover' --- Everly Bros. " > > > > > > On Apr 10, 2005, at 11:59 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > Two experiences come to mind. Both happened during "dreams". The > > first was on a 6-month course. In the dream, I was sitting at the > > front of the hall and MMY was on the dais. He wanted someone to come > > up. I looked around and no one was making the move, so I got up and > > knelt in front of his couch. He placed his thumb on my 3rd eye chakra > > and rubbed it with a twisting motion. > > > I awoke from this dream feeling profoundly surcharged with > > consciousness. > > > > > > In another dream while I was teaching in Detroit, MMY appeared to > > me. We were both standing. He walked up close, looked me in the eyes, > > and said, "Such a brilliant mind, but so obsessive." I reached out to > > him as if to say "Help me" and he disappeared. I was very obsessive > > at that stage of my life. > > > > > > There's another one that was much more profound than these, but M > > wasn't in it. Shiva might have been. I'll tell it later. Going to > > plant some flowers. > > > > > > > on 4/10/05 10:42 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > > > I guess I wouldn't have been either had I not > > > experienced it myself. I have received transmission or initiation at > > a distance from numerous > > > > teachers. One, I found out later (from Gurumayi) > > > occurred at the precise time she did darshan hundreds of miles > > > away. Strange but true. > > >tought it was. > > > > Peter: > > I was initiated by MMY during a "dream" on my SCI > > course before I saw him. A very powerful experience. > > > > > > > > > > ========== > > > > > > > > Its interesting though. MMY has explicitly said he does not come to > > people in their dreams or meditations. > > > > So to believe that one has had such a valid visit, with valid > > knowledge given, one is then forced to hold that: > > > > i) MMY is more believable in dream state than in waking state, > > > > (I guess that may make some sense, given the bizarre nature of some of > > his waking words) > > > > ii) MMY dream proclamations are more valid than his waking state > > proclamations. > > > > (This could certainly to an interesting future -- of Heirs to the > > Knowledge debating each other, dismissing MMY's words and tapes and > > promoting their dream like versions of what he has said as more valid > > than others' dreams. Well thinking about it, we sort of have that > > already here on the list.) > > > > Validation in waking, of knowledge thought to be gained during > > dreaming, is key key > > > > As an aside, i do believe one can gain knowledge during certain types > > of dreams. I think Vaj referred to them as Dreams of Certainty. > > Traditionally ther are 5-6 types of dreams, and one type is of gaining > > knowledge and insights into the future. I have had such, though its > > hard to validate. Some times it feels like the mind and intellect > > become multi dimensional e.g., 6 dimensional, in such dream states. > > Then when one wakes the 3-D mind just cant remap the 6-D insights and > > knowledge to its "smaller" container. > > > > (Thus while I hold it is possible to have valid dreams of MMY > > visitations or any saint, the fact that MMY explicitly states that he > > does not do so, points towards the conclusion that the above cites are > > not "Dreams of Certainty". Else some bizzare mind juggling acrobatic > > justifactions are necessary. While the TMO trained many well in this, > > it doesn't make them valid.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
