Vaj wrote: > > I think he is actually referring to the incredible overpricing of TMO > services and products that drain people financially, some living from > course to course on little but a shoe string. Others buy only TMO > products instead of reasonably priced alternatives. In short, he is > describing a sad form of victimization, spiritual materialism and price > gouging. This has nothing to do whatsoever with St. John of the Cross' > "dark night".
"rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ---Oddly though it is a material representation of the dark night wherein God (Maharishi) has up and left one to their own devices and lack because His mighty programs are too demanding. YES -- what MMY is doing is utterly irrelevant to anything, if that's where you stand. If however you're going through the Dark Night of the Soul of being left utterly alone, stripped bare, disillusioned, infuriated, bewildered, realizing there is no God, no other Guru than the Self, then that is precisely what MMY will play out for you, and that is what Easyone has (to me at least) very clearly represented. What Easyone is describing IS precisely the feeling-level of the Dark Night of the Soul. We can't draw artificial distinctions between spiritual and material anymore. That's part of the whole point of the Dark Night. There IS no "up- there-perfect-Absolute" and "down-there-imperfect-Relative- material;" not even any more "this (teacher) is better than that one," which is just a fancy way of saying "I am smarter/better than you," and so on. All that goes. Also, what I described before as to the Dark Night -- is NOT the same for everyone. Some slip into Brahman with scarcely a ripple; some are dragged in kicking and screaming; some jump in and make a helluva splash. Rudra Joe wrote: <snip> > But I ask in earnest the question of whether some think Maharishi is an avatar or even the Second Coming <snip> MMY like you like me like Vaj like Easyone like Shankara like Mickey Mouse like Hitler like Kali is the perfect mirror for showing us our stuff. Oh yes, to speak to your question, Sal -- I would love to be able to post everything in one fell swoop, but that is not the way it works, for me at least. I have an impulse, post something, feel the body, see how all of "you" in me are taking what is said, and THEN the impulse arises to speak to the questions of this one or that one, to resolve the new issues brought up by the previous post. Hence the need to add that this Dark Night is NOT the same for everyone -- while the original impulse to describe it was OK, it's easy to see how some of you are taking it too concretely, actually negating the original purpose of verifying where we ARE, and so a new impulse arises to add to the previous one. See? A constant balancing act. Unwieldy, as Rudra Joe might say, but that's how we're all stumbling toward takeoff, from the POV of this fool at least. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
