Per the comments on perceiving the finest Relative, aka GC, I personally think one of the purposes of such experience is to: 1. Confound the small ego by providing it with an unfathomable experience, leading it astray from the comfort of boundaries, and 2: At the same time ensnare the heart with the beauty and wonder and love of the experience, that it too is enlisted as an ally against the small self in the march towards Oneness.
As far as the danger involved in such experiences, we have all been taught to go for the highest first, so the danger is an illusion if we are going for the highest first. Thanks, Jim --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > The danger is that along the way one starts to lose the purity side > > of the teaching and just stays with the rituals, hence losing the > > purity of the knowledge. > > Brahman, G-D, infinity has no shape or form and rituals are just > > golden cage of samsara at the best case. > > Absolutely true that seeing or appreciating yagyas and rituals as > outside the Self will tend (at best) to be an expression of god- > consciousness, not "Brahman." (Not true that in themselves they will > bar one from "Brahman," which cannot be obtained or lost, only > Understood or ignored; god-consciousness -- like any other state -- is > no real barrier to "Brahman;" only attachment to it is.) > > Like these yagyas, seeing MMY, Guru Dev, and the "purity of the > teaching" as outside the Self will also (at best) tend to be an > expression of god-consciousness, not "Brahman," and (if you like) tend > to reinforce the "golden cage of samsara." (Though again, there is no > golden cage of samsara, per se -- only a habit or belief that there > is.) No one "out there" can really give us "Brahman;" it can > (probably) only be surrendered into/conquered by a tiny/colossal step > of egolessness/Egomania, denying the illusion of the self-other > dilemma and embracing/accepting the Whole -- what IS. > > > I think our friend need to check where his focus and attention goes. > > Yes, perhaps we all do, and one could perhaps make a case that without > at least some attention on and "somatose" appreciation of the > celestial qualities of the "Other," it would appear highly unlikely > that one would ever consider the "Other" worth unifying with or > embracing. A "Brahman" without the Heart is a pretty poor "Brahman"! > :-) > > The beauty of focus and attention is it gives us precisely what we > need at any point in our Life -- whether it be the sweetly powerful > electromagnetic soma-flows of god-consciousness, or the Understanding > that all is Self in the perfection of what IS, or both simultaneously, > or neither, or even the lovely embrace of deepest, blackest > Sleep...it's all good, all just a matter of focus and attention. > > With that in mind, I would like to apologize to Akasha for denying > what I perceived as his golden appreciation of Peter in "K.C." While > perhaps true in the deepest sense that this perception was a > projection -- so what? At least it is celestial, glorious -- and so if > Akasha were not to deny that perception but rather to "take credit" > for it, embrace it All -- then in what way is god-consciousness a > barrier to "Brahman"? Perhaps rather it is the single missing piece of > the puzzle (if indeed there ever could be such)! > > Jai Guru Dev in each of Us To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
