--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/18/05 12:48 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>> How can any mantra which doesn't have the Pranava bring Liberation? > >>> What TM mantra includes "OM"? > >> > >> Apparently it can, if you believe the many long-time TM > > practitioners in FF who say they have awakened. > > > > "long-time TM practitioners in FF" -- that may be your first clue. > > > > "long-time TM practitioners in FF" who also at times believed any > > number of fantastic (as in fantasy) things, abilities, projects, etc. spoke about them authoratatively, and deeply believed them -- until time eventually woke them up to the dream-like facade of their > > beliefs. Why should we suddenly find such people credible now? > > What makes you think it's the same people?
Well it would be odd if the so called awakened "long-time TM practitioners in FF" were in a special subset of rus who never bought into any TMO stories (flying, cc in five years, super radiance, SV, MAV, etc) and never talked about such authoratatively. But who knows. > > > I suppose one strategy is to simply laud these people, tell them what great shining souls they are (if you can avoid snickering), that they have obtained such great attainments, that they indeed are the blessed ones, that they, they, they, they .... until their false ego, puffed up by lots of spirutal talk, bursts with a big silent poof! > > That may be appropriate for some of them, but most I know wouldn't let you go on like that. The Robin Carlson era is long past. Well, it was sort of a joke to present this as a real-life strategy. It was a satirical ploy to help ppl discern if such people seek acknowledgement and to wonder what part of them (real or unreal) seeks such attention. Though I am sure many of the so-called awakened (SOCAs -- cuz they would fit right in in So Calif.) (or SOWAKs --"so whacked") don't seek public or general acknowledgement, there may be subtle factors of "groupthink" and peer approval among small groups. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
