--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In a message dated 4/21/05 11:01:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> In a message dated 4/21/05 8:57:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> Uh,  I've been practicing TM for 37 years, and gaining in 
awareness, 
> and  somehow I seem to have to missed that point about needing a  
guru.
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> 
> 
> 
> You missed that one did  you?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Maharishi said on one course I attended that one can gain  CC 
and even GC 
> without a guru but not UC or BC. I don't recall if it was my  
teacher 
> training course Oct 71 through June 72 or my six month age of  
enlightenment course. 
> I also attended another TTC in Oct 72 through Dec 72 which  he may 
have said 
> that then. I'm more inclined to think it was Majorca  71.

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I also attended a TTC, Humboldt 1970, and it is my recollection that 
MMY said that one without respect for his guru could not gain GC or 
BC. But merely practicing TM does mean that one has a guru, so 
respect for anybody would not be a factor that would inhibit gaining 
of higher states after CC. 

There are many stories in the Vedic literature of people going off 
into the woods and gaining BC, entirely without a contact with a guru 
(or anybody else). There are no barriers for an enlightened person to 
gaining GC and BC, a process which is aided by the production of soma 
in the enlightened man's nervous system.





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