--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 28, 2005, at 9:37 AM, medwards520 wrote: > > >> > > > > Vaj, What's the source of this information? Thanks. > > > > Peace, > > Marc > > It originally came from a Mormon biologist I knew. A paper on it used > to on the website of Dr. Michael West, the man who owns the patent. > Last I saw, it was kind of hidden on his website. Not sure it's still > there. Here's an old blog entry I made on it a couple years ago: > > Immortality East and...West > A lotta discussion on one of the Nath lists on immortality. > > Physical immortality that is. > > I was first told about "aglets" by a Mormon biologist about 10 years > ago. There was a discovery that the ends of our chromosones, the > telomeres, have a coating on them much life the little sleeves on the > ends of our shoelaces, aglets. Every time a cell divides the aglet gets > a little shorter. When a cell divides so many times it will reach a > limit where it cannot divide any longer. And it dies. This is a great > mechanism since it helps prevent mutations from entering. > > Then enter Dr. Michael West, the first person to clone human cells. He > found that when you clone a human cell and make it begin cell division > the aglets are LONGER. Clone this clone and those aglets are even > longer. The idea for longer life spans is that you could take a > geneticaly engineered retrovirus (like a benign version of the AIDS > virus) and use it to swap out your old aglets for new ones. A recent > editorial in the NY Times guesstimates that this technology will be > usable by 2010--and that human lifespan will take a jump--to about 600 > hundred years. > > It is interesting the reaction this creates in people. Most are happy > with life the way it is, with our cellular 'timeclocks' slowly counting > down to some unknown date. To Naths and yogis, attachment to life is a > block in the path. After all how can you ever fully experience samadhi > if you don't want to "let go"? Some actually react almost violently to > the idea of such life extension. > > So what of the techniques of the past, used by the yogins of yore which > could extend life considerably? Were they an advantage or disadvantage? > Why were they generally praised rather than raged upon? > > I think the answer is, in part, that in order to extend life by these > methods you already needed to have a certain level of attainment, i.e. > you need to be able to go through death BEFORE you die and make it > simply part of who you are (i.e. samadhi). Easily said, not so easily > done. Consider the adept Tapasviji Maharaj who lived 185 years. He had > to undergo the arduous Kaya Kalpa regime three times in his life--the > first time growing back all his teeth and a new skin--so as to extend > his sadhana. When this advanced adept performed the Kaya Kalpa regimen > (30-40 days in almost total isolation) on others, the results were not > as marked. It would seem these people were not as advanced in their own > surrender to the life-current and the result was they lost 10 or 15 > years in their biological age. Their state of awareness determined the > limit of what they could do. > > Nonetheless, given the fact that human birth is rare, it may be > desirable--either to attain some permanent enlightenment or for the > benefit of a garden of disciples--to extend oneself in time. > > Should consciousness be the limiting factor or should we allow > scientific materialism to perform this miracle--even though we don't > have the awareness to support it? What if we do it because we are > attached to life? What is the real end result of that? > > I was recently reminded by a wise Nath from Seattle that one of the > classes of beings above the human life-form but below that of the Gods > is the Asuras, the "non-Gods". Like Gods, they too present as beautiful > Celestials, stellar beings. They offer humans seemingly wonderful > things like immortality. But there is no Dharma taught in their > dimension. So what IS it that they are offering? > > I have to ask the molecular biologists and genetic engineers the same > question.
Thank you. I didn't know this technology was here. I was expecting somethng like this maybe another 100 years from now. Peace, Marc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
