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Sounds like you've got it figured
out. Sounds like you're expecting expectation to drop away.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 5:25 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Samadhi in
CC, GC or UC [was: This stuff never gets old...Maharishi vs. th
It is said, "expectations reduce joy." Alternatively, from
another
angle one might say: "expectations produce fear." - (the fear
that
the expectation won't be met - born of rajo- guna no doubt. )
We have all experienced this, yes? (he, he).
I imagine the
subtler the expectation is during a specific sutra, the
more powerful it is
in terms of inhibiting the natural outcome of that
sutra. Just as we
eventually learn that effort in meditation reduces
progress toward the
transcendent, and that there can be various subtle
levels of effort - both
conscious and unconscious, perhaps the same is
true for sutra practice. (Or
put another way, as we learn how the
subtle manifestations of rajas and
tamas guna are reflected in our
consciousness as expectations and fear we
can learn to favor the the
"I Am" awareness - the clear satvic stream by
just dropping - taking a
neutral attitude towards - the fear.)
First
one becomes aware of subtle layers of expectation and fear, and
then one
naturally drops them one by one. Now real progress can be
made.
Congratulations!
After all isn't samsara just the attachment to an
outcome?
--- In [email protected], "Llundrub"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was just doing the sidhis and noticed
that there does seem to be a
current of hope and fear that is created. I
wonder if anyone else
notices this? Hope that a sidhi is born and fear that
it wont be. I
therefore have to agree with Vaj on this one, the sidhi
practice seems
more samsaric than plain TM.
> -----
Original Message -----
> From: Alex Stanley
> To: [email protected]
>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 8:03 AM
> Subject:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Samadhi in CC, GC or UC [was: This
stuff never gets
old...Maharishi vs. the movement]
>
>
> --- In
[email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> > On May 6, 2005, at
7:45 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> >
>
> > I don't assume that just because a view is traditional,
it
> > > is correct, especially with respect to ideas
about
> > > spirituality and consciousness, which are,
by their very
> > > nature,
subjective.
> >
> > Didn't say
traditional--I said "pure".
>
> How is purity
determined? A quick Google search says Patanjali lived
>
somewhere between 200 BC and 200 AD. How does one determine
whether
> one interpretation of an ancient religious
scripture is more pure or
> correct than another? The idea
of locking down something as
> free-flowing as spirituality
into a box of rigid dogmatic purity
> strikes me as silly as
trying to herd cats.
>
> > The problem is, IMO,
that whenever you decide to "sell"
> > something, you
have to polish it up for the marketplace.
> > Hide it's
flaws and tout its benefits. That's great for
> >
"product", but it also means you're
hiding part of
the
> > truth. Hiding the truth in "product" is
commonplace, but
> > it has no place in spirituality
where you are trying to
> > uncover truth.
>
> On the other hand, the McMeditation Marketing Model made
meditation
> widely available and visible to those who would
have otherwise not
> even thought of seeking it out from an
obscure tradition steeped in
> "purity". The Lord works in
strange and mysterious ways!
>
> > "Think" on that
and then "think" on what would happen if
> > you figured
out that the "product" that everyone wanted
> > and was
really attached to was "enlightenment".
>
> I think
it's likely that people will ultimately be drawn to a
>
suitable spiritual tradition, no matter where they start. In my
own
> case, I never understood or cared one whit about
concepts of
> enlightenment. My brother came back from TTC
and taught me TM when I
> was 13 years old. For me, TM was
never anything more than a stress
> reduction technique.
But, ultimately, my involvement with TM set the
> stage for
my finding Waking Down, which is perfectly suited to who I
>
am. With my own strong tendencies toward self-destructive behavior,
I
> probably wouldn't even be alive today if not for
TM.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
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