--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have never been clear about the difference between samyama and TM
> meditation. (I know the difference as per tm-sidhis instructions, but
> in general)
> 
> In samyama there is concentration (effortlessly thinking the mantra 
in
> TM) meditation going beyond thought and samdhi. Why is practicing TM
> not really doing samyama where the object is the mantra (disregarding
> the definite picking up the sutra every 15 sec which is done in some
> other forms of meditation with a mantra.)
There are two major differences. The first is that the attention is 
more in samyama. There is a definate attention to the sutra and then 
the specifically letting it go. There is intent to pick it up, unlike 
meditation where your mind should "effortlessly" come back to the 
mantra. This intent to pick it up and let it go systmatically coupled 
with the quality of the sutra is supposed to create the affect 
mentioned in Patnajali. Didn't you feel really tired during Gov 
training? I know our whole group did. This fatigue showed up when we 
learned the sutras. I think it is an excerise for the mind to learn to 
think (specifically-ie sutra) in subtle areas of the mind. Having 
attention at more subtle levels of the mind after being accustomed to 
transcending takes some effort. We first learned to transcend  and 
then after rolling around in it we had to learn to actually function 
and be active on that level. We were given the traditional excercise 
to practice, Patanjali.




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