> > lurk wrote: > > > > Does anyone understand what point this person is > > trying to make?
Rick's friend is saying there is precedent for a religious leader to deny spiritual succor to nations that offend the religious leader. Apparently most Catholic interdicts date back to the Middle Ages, but an incident has occurred as recently as 1962. For an annoted discussion by a former nun, visit http://www.catholicconcerns.com/Coercion.html. Here's an excerpt: "Popes have ruled over kings and other secular rulers by using the "spiritual weapons" of excommunication and interdict. These "weapons" have been effective because Roman Catholics believe that the Pope has the power to deprive them of the grace which they need in order to get to Heaven. Excommunicated people are cut off from the Catholic Church, from church services, from Christian burial, and from the sacraments (communion, confession, baptism, confirmation, marriage, and the "last rites"). [Note 1] "Because Catholics believe that the Catholic Church and the sacraments are necessary for salvation, this is, in effect, sentencing them to hell." - Mary Ann Collins www.catholicconcerns.com/Coercion.html - Patrick Gillam --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- lurkernomore20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From a friend: > > > > > > I believe the popes @ several times placed an > > interdicton a > > country for the > > > actions of its Sovereign. As I recall it was > > placed several times > > upon now > > > Germany @ least twice. The once upon England > > perhaps 2 times there > > as well. > > > The interdict forbad the saying of masses or > > dispensation of any > > so called > > > holy dispensations of grace i.e. mass , baptism, > > extreme unction > > etc. WOW! > > > perhaps the TM teachers will re--double their > > efforts in the > > British isles. > > > Its unclear if this is just England or all the UK, > > as N. Ireland > > Scotland & > > > Wales as well as the independent Sovereign > > islands scattered > > about of the > > > costs of the UK & France. Thanks for all you do > > here I learn so > > much by my > > > readings here. I have thus grown in spirit & > > understanding of my > > self & more > > > important my SELF has grown I appreciate my TM & > > other programs > > far more. I > > > have most often been enriched by you & the fruits > > of you & others > > works as > > > well THANKS Now more humble than ever before after > > seeing what you > > & others > > > have accomplished for us. I would like also to > > note I do NOT > > appreciate the > > > vulger language & disrespect show by some to > > others the lack of > > sweet tone > > > but understand its a reflaction of them selvers & > > understand this > > but do NOT > > > enjoy it. > > > > Does anyone understand what point this person is > > trying to make? > > > > lurk > > Well, I think the stupid mother f_cker is expressing > his cotempt for people with sh_t for brains. What an > a__hole! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
