Individuality is a very curious delusion. When
identification of consciousness with mind ceases,
there is no longer an individual. Everything goes on
as before, but there is no longer a "doer" or
"decider" who has intent. There's just nobody home.
The individual doesn't even become "unbounded." "You"
simply cease to exist.
-Peter
--- Llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And some maybe enlightened. But as it is, Irmely, I
> am just sceptical
> about our sense of individuality and self. And if
> you read the
> Bhagavad Gita, it is exactly what Krishna says to
> Arjuna, when he
> refuses to kill his own relatives. Krishna says: I
> have already killed
> them. Besides that, brain research indicates, that
> decissions are
> already taken in the brain, *before* we become aware
> of them, and own
> them my our 'individuality' As I see it, modern man
> is addicted to a
> cult of individuality.
>
>
> ----I can see what you say. But then there are other
> ways of seeing it. The Tibetans say that we are a
> mirror of pure awareness and within that mirror
> different impulses exist, which are also maya but
> which have some conventional reality just as all
> appearances. In that conventional framework there
> are six lokas which include pretty much all our
> thoughts. That is to say that our thoughts spring
> from one or another of six coexisting lokas from the
> demonic to the angelic, with everything in between.
> The cool thing about Tibetan Buddhism and Bon are
> that they seek to satisfy all the six lokas beings
> in order to pacify them and not excise one or the
> other loka as bad and unworthy of affection. To that
> aim, when one does purification practices the
> negative energies flow to the lower lokas and fill
> them up with food. The demonic beings are satisfied.
> The purer or more rare energies rise and satisfy
> the devic realms and they are satisfied. The human
> body contains all these impulses, and as such is a
> temple of everything. To become a channel of one
> loka or another is imbalanced, especially when a
> godlike loka co-opts a demonic and uses the demonic
> as its means. We are humans first, and should act
> like one. That means living a balanced and
> respectful existance.
>
> One can transcend the authorship of action and
> perceive the absolute, and yet still be driven
> through one or more predominant realms of method.
> This is why training and wisdom are very necessary.
>
> It is very hard to remember the transcendental
> reality when the demonic is possessing one. One can
> be an awesome practitioner but still get caught up.
> It happens all the time because there are powerful
> demons who have had lifetimes to perfect their art.
> Those demons are our samsaric vrittis which compell
> us to recreate the conditions for our falling over
> and over again. We think we have no demons but just
> for the sake of argument try making a sacrifice to
> the absolute. And see the possessive tendencies
> scream. Just try it. And you'll see that the
> demonic lives on. Give fifty bucks pointlessly to a
> homeless person without any hope of return, and
> watch the inner demons drag their clutches through
> your entire brain and body.
>
> We are possessed by the possessive tendencies. In a
> being like Maharishi he is possessed by some godlike
> deities or major auras. This is not an intellectual
> thing. These impulses of creative intelligence (and
> demons are very creative too) are hard to sort out.
> One ca sit back and be a mouthpiece for any and all
> of them, or one can still use human characteristics
> of discrimination and wisdom.
>
> I really can't judge Maharishi. The more I rail at
> him the more I sometimes just have to wonder what
> the dilly? I am fortunate in that I actually have no
> real possessions to call my own never having even
> had a bank account at age fourty. I own nothing
> except my extensive collection of religious objects.
> All the nice things around me are really owned by
> my wife. True, I am possessive of her, and she is my
> biggest bond in this life, but it could be alot
> worse. For this reason, if I may be smug, I actually
> am fairly free of attachments, and free of material
> ability and concern. (For the most part) In other
> words, my possessive demons are fairly pacified. So
> when I give things away I see the demons screech as
> their voices are clear. They sound alot like Maharishi.
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