> > Bob, it sounds like you are saying that is the Kaplans had stayed > > longer then they definitely would have become enlightened (whatever > > that means). What about all the people who faithfully followed MMY > > until their deaths, did they achieve complete satisfaction, did > > they all achieve a state of enlightenment? What are you talking > > about here? > > It sounds to me as if Bob has fully...uh...bought into > the idea that you can buy your way to enlightenment. > > That's a popular idea in some spiritual organizations. > You can usually tell them from the others by the size > of their bank accounts, and by the number of people > still talking about enlightenment rather than living it.
BTW, this really isn't a TM-specific rant. The "buy your way to enlightenment thang" in the TM movement is after my time. But I've seen the same thing in other organizations, and have a few opinons as to where this mindset leads. IMO, in *any* organization when the main criterion for being a "good student" becomes money-oriented, the organization is in serious trouble. It seems to me that often in this discussion two paradigms have being accepted here as a given, and not challenged in any way. The first is that how much money one has or is able to make is somehow tied to their level of evolution or to the "support of nature" for their endeavors. The second seems to me to be that enlightenment can to some extent be "given" to you by a teacher. Do what the teachers say, contribute to their attempts to further the dharma as they see it, and the gurus shall, through their grace, assist you with your personal enlightenment. In other words, be nice to Scottie, and he will beam you up. I know that a *lot* of people in the world of spirituality believe strongly in both of these paradigms. And that's fine. I'm just curious as to whether there are folks out there who have other ideas on the subject. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
