--- In [email protected], "suziezuzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> [email protected], bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > Bob, nobodies stake in the movement is or was as high as the
> > > Kaplains. Therefore you have no right to judge them. They gave
> > more
> > > than anyone, and all they wanted was one single promise to come
> > true.
> > > >
> > >
> > > **********
> > >
> > > When you go to Disneyland and get on a E-ticket ride (maybe E
> > tickets
> > > are passe, who knows), you stay on the ride til the end for
> > complete
> > > satisfaction. The Ks left -- too bad for them, but they were
> fools.
> > >
> > > The Ks could have been 200percenters, rich and enlightened, but
> > like
> > > stereotypical snotty rich kids, they threw a tantrum, made a lot
> > of
> > > faces, and left with their baseball glove, instead of sticking
> > around and helping the movement to grow.
> >
> 
> > Bob, it sounds like you are saying that is the Kaplans had stayed
> > longer then they definitely would have become enlightened 
(whatever
> > that means). What about all the people who faithfully followed MMY
> > until their deaths, did they achieve complete satisfaction, did
> they
> > all achieve a state of enlightenment? What are you talking about
> > here?
> >
> > Rick Carlstrom
> 
> Rick, 
> 


> Bob isn't talking about anything that can be validated by any past 
events but is just 
> making some pretty silly assumptions. By the way, he forgot to put 
in the 
> word 'Jewish' in his list of epithets. 
> 


I did not know that you were a Jew-hater. I despise that unfortunate 
trait, and I am unable to include that pointless ethnic 
identification in my characterization of the Kaplans.


> If we consider the past as an indication to answer your question, 
then we would have 
> to conclude that most likely, what would have happened to the 
Kaplans had they donated 
> all their money, is that their money would have either had been 
lost, misappropriated 
> or allocated to questionable TM programs. No one can predict if 
they would have become 
> enlightened or simply would have left the movement much worse off 
than now. 
> 
> Mark

This is absolutely typical of the muddled thinking you find on this 
list. How you jump to the loopy idea that the Kaplans were going to 
donate all their money, I have no idea, but it's as far away from 
reality as anything you have to say. The Kaplans could have created a 
private foundation so that they would have had total control over 
their allocations to the movement, but they did not, so they can't 
complain if a few million were not spent in the way that they wanted. 
If you do not regard the practice of TM as a path to enlightenment, 
that is an opinion which any ignoramus can hold, but it is not my 
opinion -- the Ks quit TM in a pique over their maltreatment, 
throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and they will someday 
recognize how utterly foolish that is, even if that someday is after 
they croak in the most pathetic way possible: old, sick, ignorant, 
and rich.

Bob Brigante
http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html




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