On May 17, 2005, at 7:11 PM, t3rinity wrote: > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On May 17, 2005, at 3:41 PM, t3rinity wrote: >> >>>> Videha is described various ways. In reference to videha it is being >>>> bodiless while still maintaining a body. Some say you retain mahat, >>>> ahamkara and mind as videhas >>> >>> You mean without physical bodies? Thats what I was saying. >> >> No, I already said that's not what I was referring to. > > What is then 'bodiless, while still maintaining a body'? > If you retain mahat, ahamkara and mind, its not the *physical* body.
<sigh> It is if you still are in your body. > > <snip> > >>> But with or without physical body? >> >> WITH a physical body. Vidyaranya says that this is about the subtle >> bodies and the future body. > > While being in the old physical body? Yes. Unity begins to arise when certain subtle bodies, your sukshmna, sthula and karana sharira's are dissolved--while in your physical body. Eventually, when you are ready, you let go of the last karmas which allow you to maintain the karmic vision of the human realm and...off you go (the physical body disappearing to those with limited human vision). > > <snip> > >>> Except if you >>> want to dissolve your body into a statue, like Meera did, or close >>> yourself into a room and dissappear, like it is said of Ramalinga > Swami >> >> Yes, the latter is a form of videhamukti. > > But that's *without* physical body. Ramalinga is not in a physical > body anymore. He left it, or rather didn't leave it in a room in > Vadalur. So you are contradicting your statements above, i.e. that it > is *with* a physical body. No, I'm not--you're either not listening or you not getting it. This is a continuum of experience leading up to the eventual disappearance of the body. "Think outside the box of TM, SCI and the TM-Sidhi programme." > > Anyway, in both cases it has nothing to do with waht Maharishi > describes as Unity Consciousness. Thats not about future subtle > bodies. It's about present Unity. Yeah, I know there are many things in Vidyaranya I'm certain he'd never want anyone to see or read. It blows much of what he teaches out of the water. I guess you could say it is a different system--possibly. But I question that. To many key features and practices for CC missing in Mahesh's ideas for my taste. There are of course some good things about M.'s presentation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
