On May 24, 2005, at 7:17 AM, sparaig wrote:

> I, at least, can sorta support my claim.
>
> You?

There are plenty of reports on TM'ers and dissociative disorders out 
there. And memory loss. And lying. Etc. If you are wearing rose-colored 
glasses though, it's likely your world will continue to look rosy.

And there have certainly been plenty of reports on this list of people 
who have been blue-papered or shipped out of FF on a bus. Once you've 
been around you see all sorts of things like this. It's sad, what can I 
say. So you hear a lot, you see a lot. Also having two close friends 
who are psychiatrists tends to give you some insight based on what 
they've seen.

Since we're talking under the Thurman thread, it's probably worth 
commenting on one of the things he had to say. One of the qualities of 
an enlightened being is that they can find the perfection in anything 
they put their awareness on--but at the same time the stench of samsara 
is equally apparent.



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