--- In [email protected], Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Big lesson: never assume anything.

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Yes, a big lesson. Remembering the line from a Woody Allen movie wherein the 
protagonist explains that he's such a great lover because "I practice a lot by 
myself", and 
noting that serious sex researchers unanimously report that most men practice a 
lot by 
themselves, and noting further that it obviously seems not to help much in the 
performance department, I indeed assumed that you were not advocating more 
wanking 
as a solution to the performance deficit. Evidently I was wrong.

L B S

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> 
> L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:--- In [email protected], 
> Robert 
Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sad that the average time is so small. Men really need to practice more, I 
> > would say...
> 
> ******
> 
> I assume you mean "with a partner".
> 
> L B S
> 
> ******
> > Funny, how deeply programed we are to be so obsessed for five minutes of 
> > pleasure?
> > Or, maybe not so funny...
> > 
> > L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Message: 2         
> >    Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:26:59 -0700
> >    From: NHNE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Study: Length Of Time People Spend Having Sex
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> > WATCH THE CLOCK, DARLING &shy; BRITS LAST LONGEST AT SEX
> > By Ben Dowell
> > The Sunday Times - Britain
> > May 22, 2005
> > 
> > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1622297,00.html
> > 
> > A scientific study to be published this week will suggest that British 
> > men
> > are world leaders at sex, at least when they are measured against the 
> > clock.
> > But that is not saying much considering that most men in other 
> > countries
> > were at best five-minute wonders.
> > 
> > After equipping hundreds of couples in various countries with 
> > stopwatches,
> > researchers have for the first time amassed accurate data on the length 
> > of
> > time that people spend having sex.
> > 
> > Across all the countries studied, the average time for actual 
> > lovemaking was
> > 5.4 minutes. Around that figure, however, the researchers found 
> > considerable
> > variations related to age and nationality.
> > 
> > While British men took on average 7.6 minutes, the typical American 
> > took 7
> > minutes, while the Spanish lasted 5.8 minutes and the Dutch 5.1 
> > minutes.
> > 
> > The Turks produced the biggest surprise: on average they spend just 3.7
> > minutes at it.
> > 
> > In all the countries studied there was no significant difference in the
> > timings whether the men were using condoms or not.
> > 
> > In the research, to be published in the Journal of Sexual Medicine, 
> > British
> > and Dutch scientists studied 500 couples aged over 18 in the five 
> > countries.
> > 
> > "Sexual events were stopwatch-timed over a four-week period and 
> > recorded,"
> > says Dr Marcel Waldinger, a leading neuro-psychiatrist based at Utrecht
> > University who led the research.
> > 
> > The findings also revealed how the time from start to finish of sex
> > decreased with age, from an average of 6.5 minutes for men aged 18-30 
> > to 4.3
> > minutes for those over 51.
> > 
> > The researchers say the findings indicate that male sexual functioning
> > varies significantly between healthy individuals, and there is no easy
> > definition of what should be classified as average sexual performance 
> > or
> > premature ejaculation.
> > 
> > "The wide range among normal men points to a physical rather than a
> > psychological cause for premature ejaculation," said Waldinger.
> > 
> > "The results will help to lift the taboo over premature ejaculation 
> > because
> > they show that men are indeed different from one another."
> > 
> > Just why there are significant national differences is not clear and 
> > the
> > researchers plan bigger studies and yet more research to find an
> > explanation.
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