In private conversations with Charlie Lutes, he stated that he didn't 
approve of the "scientific baloney" coming out of MIU; and he 
questioned MMY's "wisdom" in bringing the flying siddhi, saying it was 
a lot of crap.
  I tried to convince him to take over as leader of an alternative (to 
MIU and SIMS)faction of the TM Org; but in spite of his doubts about 
MMY's decisions, he chose to remain steadfast to MMY as his personal 
Guru.
 Then, I tried to persuade him to go over to Swami Muktananda; after 
which Charlie visited Muktananda once (at least) when the latter was in 
Santa Monica around 1980. Charlie seemed to be fascinated by Muktananda 
but told me he would always be loyal to MMY. 




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