I think it's clear that MMY, like Promethius, stole the mythical fire of heaven and gave it to the ignrant.  So also you shall too.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ingegerd
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:47 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

The independent TM-Teachers and Chopra and other spiritual teachers 
are a path of evolution. You can not stop the evolution because some
Gurus stop teaching or die. If we have a real desire to give the
knowledge that we have to other people, it would be a big crime not
to do that.
Ingegerd

--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:
> SCI is not required to *learn* TM. And, unless the planis to never
> teach TM to the masses again ever, it seems well, at least as
> egotistical as everyone seems to be claiming MMY is, to be talking
> about setting up a large-scale rival TM organization. Chopra's
> organization has no chance of "teaching the masses" on the scale
that
> the TMO has done, and still can do, and yet, you guys think you can
> do as well as, or better than chopra, and somehow do as well as
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
>
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On May 25, 2005, at 5:30 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:
> >
> > > Much of the impetus behind independent TM
> > > teaching comes from making the knowledge
> > > available at more affordable prices. But I'm
> > > curious how people who've been following the
> > > discussions here would handle other aspects
> > > of the teaching that might be a bit more problematic.
> > >
> > > For example, we typically say the mantra is a
> > > meaningless sound. Would you all stick with
> > > that description? Or would some of you disclose
> > > the provenance of mantras?
> > >
> > > Another issue: We say on the third night of
> > > checking that cosmic consciousness is a state
> > > in which one's every act is spontaneously life-
> > > supporting. But a popular topic among us has
> > > been the questioning of that dogma. What would
> > > you say? Would you just skip that part of the teaching?
> > >
> > > And if we start fiddling with the teaching, are we
> > > teaching TM, or something inspired by it?
> > >
> > > The larger subtext: does knowledge really get lost?
> >
> > This is a really good question.
> >
> > This is the question I was addressing when I talked the other day
> about
> > the upside of the pundits. It will really be these guys who will
> > preserve the true tradition. Unless people take the time to train
> > themselves in the texts behind this tradition, they would be
> clueless.
> > Why? Because when you were taught SCI you were not given the
source
> for
> > these teaching.  Nor were you given the source behind many of the
> > advanced lectures. The science of the gap, the sandi, is all in
> > Sanskrit. In other words, the real tradition has been hidden
behind
> a
> > facade of scientific materialism and dispensed. The only real
> option is
> > to bootleg the SCI tapes and the advanced lectures, etc.
> >
> > And how will you train new teachers without all of the video and
> audio
> > tapes?
> >
> > Another issue is who will teach the advanced techniques?
> >
> > The very real upside of the pundits--even if it ends up being
only
> half
> > of the number stated--the upside is they have the full knowledge
of
> the
> > tradition AND the practices. So it's a good thing that they are
> > learning what they are learning. The karma-kanda aspect of M.'s
> > teaching really is only preserved by Brahmins--and that
represents
> a
> > significant part since what he teaches is essentially karma yoga
> for
> > householders.




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