--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- Jeff Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What happens to the individual when he drops his
> > body after attaining 
> > enlightenment?  One unbounded ocean of consciousness
> > in motion?
> 
> Nothing can happen to an enlightened individual after
> dropping the body because there is no individual for
> anything to happen to. You are understanding
> enlightenment in terms of waking state. Enlightenment
> can not be understood from waking state. Waking state
> assume there is an "I" that stuff happens to. That
> just is not true anymore in enlightenment. Yea, I
> know, it makes no sense to the mind, but then
> enlightenment has nothing to do with mind other than
> squashing it.
> -Squashed like bug

So, this makes me wonder, was the existence of a body the cause of 
believing an individual existed in the first place? Or, was the 
belief that an individual exists the cause for the existence of a 
body? Any ideas about why an intelligent universe would manifest as 
an individual body?

Rick Carlstrom




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