--- In [email protected], Zdravko Baselli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never said that Heaven on Earth will come now. It is always inside you, and inside everyone, providing us the choice of living it or not.
Yes, yes, yes. This is a very important distinction. Rick Carlstrom > Llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:You need ask of me nothing, as I spent four years at MIU and was there at Taste of Utopia, which certainly did seem heavenly, except for the fact that my girlfriend got pregnant. I just seek to know why people think heaven on earth will come now because of a handfull of TM meditators when all the saints in history didn't make it come before. Are you so smug that you think you're better? Obviously. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Zdravko Baselli > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:27 AM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth > > > > It is not manipulation, it is message of Divine Inteligence who speaks through Divine Souls, so also through Maharishi, great Teacher who gave us the technique to come to the Home of all knowledge, what is necessary to be able to understand it. So again I like to ask you to come to the Home of all knowledge, and then, with support of Universal Mind, all your doubts will be cleared. > > Llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, this is my point, if I had one. Maharishi has played upon the Lord's Prayer so as to utilize a deep anglo imprint in order to manipulate us. Moreover, the concept of heaven on earth is really only in Western religions like Islam - time of judgement, Judaism - Zion, and Christianity- Lord's Prayer, new heaven and new earth of Revelations. The cooncept doesn't exist in Buddhism or Hinduism. One can't really compare the concepts of Shamballah, or Sat Yuga since they are not any time in near cognizance. So I conclude that this heaven on earth stuff is mere manipulation of the Western mind. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Gimbel > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:31 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth > > > > -'Heaven on Earth' nice concept. > As it has stood now, we've created many hells, that's for sure... > So, in my mind, it seems that the prayer of Jesus of Nazareth, made > mention of the formula for creating 'heaven on earth'. > "Our Father, who art in heaven, > hallowed be thy Name. > Thy kingdom come. > Thy "will be done. > "On earth, as it is in Heaven. > Therefore, > If we would align ourselves, > with the "will of heaven, > and if we believe in a "Compassion Lord" > then, > it would follow, that, > we would create, > "Heaven on Earth. > And this is happening now. > As the formula, for the raising of consciousness, > has been discovered and revealed, > by, Maharishi, and all those working with him > to raise the vibration of the world. > This time period, > is quite unique, > in that, > we have the internet, for world-wide communication. > We have an ultimate need to evolve the human race. > Because of our need to be resolved of our destructive tendencies. > And we have a genius of Supreme Knowledge, in Maharishi, > to have gained world-wide respect, > so the Vedas if India, > can be re-established, > and the West, > can also have enlightenment. > That's it. > Jai Guru Dev. > > -- In [email protected], "Zdravko Baselli" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Since you answer all questions with very used Movement cliches I > > shall interpret that to mean that you cannot answer my question as > > stated, with thoughts of your own. > > > > > It is my own thought, dear friend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -- > > ------------- > > > Yahoo! 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