agreed. There is much to be said for the various teachings, arms,  
of the Buddha. Personally I am happy to have the exposure of so many 
sides of that tradition represented here. I enjoy hearing about it, 
and have drawn from the richness of the tradition in many ways, 
especially the spiritual art flowing from contemplation of the 
Buddha. As mentioned previously I was exposed to Buddha's teaching 
way before beginning TM.

So no disagreement. Please don't mistake me for a TM bigot; been 
there done that. I was merely making the point that there are 
thousands upon thousands of teachers out there and in my opinion 
very few of them are worth any serious consideration, at all.

 
--- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I don't really know what you mean. I find many of my teachers 
really precious. I had bought the DVD of the Nyingthig Yabshi and 
hadn't watched it for two years, and when I finally watched it last 
week I was totally blown away by the beauty and compassion of the 
teachings. If you haven't encountered this then I am sorry for you. 
You need to understand a Chod ceremony or phowa, or something which 
has been structured. 
> 
> The real guru chela relationship still exists. I hadn't found it 
within Hinduism because Hinduism has been warped through weakness of 
the teachers upon arriving in the West. 
> 
> Maharishi rails about the West but he has been changed through 
association with it more than the West has been changed through 
association with him. 
> 
> There still are hugely wonderful teachings in Buddhism. Like terma 
Ganesha, Dzamballah, White Tara, Avalokiteshvara and so on. TM 
people in general are trying to sell a weak product in a market 
that's completely already developed with many experts. Only they are 
lacking expertise. TM might be great but the entire package is weak. 
It needs much work. I gotta say I love you peeps for trying. How I 
wish you could succeed. But how can you succeed unless you 
understand the allure of the competition?  You simply cannot. It's 
very sad that so few will seek beyond their narrow minded Hindu 
Zionism. Which isn't even theirs. Very few of you have ever sought 
refuge from samsara in a real tradition. There's alot of joy to be 
had in one.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: jim_flanegin 
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 8:17 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pointing out instructions and What is 
the perfect master?
> 
> 
> and aside from a very few, I find most of them completely useless 
> aside from some transient entertainment value.
> 





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