--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest" > <george.deforest@> wrote: > > > > >> Ron, is the reason you mentioned 'cognizing the vedas' because > of > > >> the rumor spread by TB's (probably purushoids) that Mahesh > > >> 'cognized the Vedas'? > > > > > > Never heard that Maharishi "cognized the vedas". > > > Could you spezify please ? > > > > FWIW, Maharishi is credited with cognizing > > the "uncreated commentary" of vedic literature in 1980, > > in the official lists of his year by year achievements; > > see http://www.alltm.org/Maharishi/Maharishi_year3.html > > > > another brief explanation: > > > > "In the early eighties, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi cognized the nature > and > > the details of this eternally fixed sequence of the words in Rik > Veda. > > This cognition of the inherent structure of Rik Veda is termed as > > "Apaurusheya Bhasya," or uncreated commentary. It brings to light, > > that the specific sequence of the letters, syllables, words, Padas, > > Richas, Suktas and Mandalas of Rik Veda, form an eternal structure > in > > which every next expression provides a commentary on the previous > > expression. Every following expression is a natural elaboration or > > commentary on the expressions that are preceding it. > > > > From this it follows that all the knowledge of the entire Veda is > > contained in the first word and indeed even in the first letter of > the > > Veda "A." The term "Apaurusheya Bhasya" further implies that it is > a > > commentary provided by the structure of the Veda itself. The whole > > essence of the Apaurusheya Bhasya can therefore be summarised in > the > > phrase: "Follow the sequence." > > > > Maharishi's Apaurusheya Bhasya has made clear to the world for the > > first time in the history of mankind that the sequence of the Vedic > > expressions is of an absolute significance. Only as such, the Veda > can > > be understood as the blueprint of Creation, or as Maharishi > formulated > > it in 1992, the Constitution of the Universe, containing the > > structuring dynamics of all the Laws of Nature that govern all > > evolutionary processes in the ever expanding universe. > > > > source: http://www.selfrealisation.net/VedicAstrology/instrman.htm > > Aparusheya Bhasya, thats right, forgot that one. Only a Maha Rishi > could see the missing verse. Maharishi said he would write a > commentary to the Brahma Sutras, if time allows. > I dont think so, this belongs to one in the process- An enlightened One would not congnise or need to cognize anything. This again us a basis for much confusion as peoplee think that one with a certain dress, from a certain country, with a certain big following, with certain insights, cognitions, revelations, and powers is enlightened, but not so.
And again, what is the purpose? The master can only take one as far as they are. I dont think it is reasonable to call one a Sat Guru if not capable to take one to enlightenment, that is just a guru that also can spark an awakening. For a completed awakening, then this is a sat guru Speaking of which, here is a short commentary from Ramamaharihi about Guru: Guru is the Self.... > > Sometimes in his life a man becomes dissatisfied > with it, and, not content with what he has, he > seeks the satisfaction of his desires, through > prayer to God etc. > > His mind is gradually purified until he longs to > know God, more to obtain His grace than to satisfy > his worldly desires. > > Then, God's grace begins to manifest. God takes > the form of a Guru and appears to the devotee, > teaches him the Truth and, moreover, purifies his > mind by association. > > The devotee's mind gains strength and is then able > to turn inward. By meditation it is further purified > and it remains still without the least ripple. > > That calm expanse is the Self. > > The Guru is both `external' and `internal'. From > the `exterior' he gives a push to the mind to turn > inward; from the `interior' He pulls the mind towards > the Self and helps in the quieting of the mind. > > That is Guru Kripa. There is no difference between > God, Guru and the Self ..." > > (Ramana Maharshi) >
