Thank you for your effort, Bill.  I've explored simplifying my message
further yet cannot find any simpler way of asking what I've asked, and no,
my question is not a statement, it is a question.



On 9/29/07, billy jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Sorry, also, but I don't understand what you are looking for here. You
> asked for "classic descriptions" as well as personal experiences. These
> classical descriptions are found in the yoga and tantric texts of early and
> medieval Hinduism and Buddhism.
>
> Your reply seems unusual. Are you actually asking something that is a real
> question to you or are you wanting to make a statement about how things are?
> Perhaps you are looking for descriptions that accord with your own ideas as
> evidenced in your reply.
>
> Sorry, but I don't think I can help much. However, Vaj also shares this
> background, so perhaps you can query him.
>
>
>
> *"Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer.
> Who'd've Thunk It?" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
>
> Regardless of what one "believes", Bill, the kundalini precedes, in the
> continuity of the cosmos, such prejudices.  Symptoms of it passing through
> the chakras has to do with nonprejudicial experiences.
>
> So, I don't understand the question, sorry.
>
> *Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable
> thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience. Only such
> persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. Anything less is a menace
> to society.*
> *I want every person to be complete in themselves.  Your himsa has no
> place in my mission.*
>
>
>
> On 9/29/07, emptybill <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Functionalist Buddhist Tantra or Structuralist Hindu Tantra?
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mystical Sadhu"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone have descriptions of experiences, perceptions resulting
> > from
> > > raising the kundalini through the various chakras?
> > >
> > > "Classic" descriptions as well as personal experiences.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > Satya
> > >
> > > When Shakyamuni Buddha was at Mount Grdhrakuta, he held up a flower to
> > his
> > > listeners. Everyone was silent. Only Mahakashyapa broke into a broad
> > smile.
> > > The Buddha said, "I have the True Dharma Eye, the Marvelous Mind of
> > Nirvana,
> > > the True Form of the Formless, and the Subtle Dharma Gate, independent
> >
> > of
> > > words and transmitted beyond doctrine. This I have entrusted to
> > Mahakashyapa."
>
>

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