Thank you Lurk. Now, there was someone who said that my comparison was stupid. I'm not sure he deserves an explanation, but he shall have one whether or not he likes it. I told Bronte privately that I didn't mind if a guru blasted me clean, but I do mind if he then pumps me full of his shit. That, in a nutshell explains what happened in Germany. Meditation is certainly a good thing, it does blast you clean, and it is neutral. But a meditator is more vulnerable than an ordinary mortal to believing all kinds of stuff that his guru tells him. Absolute devotion to a guru makes me nervous because of Nazi Germany. I notice from the story of one woman about the guru type that just died that he absolutely abused his power and status. "If you get pregnant, I don't want to know about it, just go get an abortion." Heinous! And, by the way, whoever called that a rumor should learn the difference between a rumor and a first person account.
While I believe that meditation is (or can be) a good thing, I have some question about the effects of many people meditating together. I understand the theory of why the 1% should work, but that's just a theory. I have not really seen peace on earth as a result of our numbers. But here is what I have seen. Germany was in a state of mass hypnosis during Hitler's reign, and, traveling to China and then coming back here has made me see that America is in a state of mass hypnosis now. I don't know why that is, but could large numbers of people meditating have that effect? Meditation is a good thing, and it is neutral. But it apparently can be used to vastly different effects when we are talking about societies, rather than individuals. Talking to my physics teacher, Dr. Droste, I heard all the things I'm hearing here in Ff. about meditation and about enlightenment, and the stories in both cases range from the ridiculous to the sublime. It is not a stupid comparison, the comparison between America now and Hitler's Germany then. We are torturing people. And that may only be the beginning (those of you who think American concentration camps are too bizarre for belief should just Google them--they were too bizarre for belief in Germany too. But the American and Canadian residential schools for Native Americans were essentially death camps for children and served as a model for Hitler's camps). I hope whoever said that the evil has been defeated at some cosmic level is right, but I sure don't see the effects of it in real time on planet earth as long as there are prisoners suffering at American hands in Abu Ghraib. I see the same indifference to those things here in America as there was in Nazi Germany. That is the comparison I am making, and it is not stupid. a off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In [email protected], Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please remind me of what the limit is. Thanks, >> 35 post limit per week. You go girl ! OffWorld > > Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P.S., Angela, you're up to 27 posts. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.10/1070 - Release Date: 10/14/2007 9:22 AM > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
