well put!

signed,
also another nutcase, or as Maharishi refers to nutcases, the 
hollowness of the seed

--- In [email protected], "marekreavis" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Comment below:
> 
> --- In [email protected], "lupidus108" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >  
> > > > this was a big issue, in the Robin Carlson days!
> > > > he claimed to represent the pure Guru Dev, and
> > > > that Maharishi had strayed from it. He attracted
> > > > alot of followers in Fairfield around 1982.
> > 
> > Nutcases abound. 
> > 
> > There will always be those souls who take refuge in their 
> > escapist "understanding" of Guru Dev rather than follow the 
advice of 
> > his closest disciple Maharishi. 
> > 
> > Why ? Because it is much easier to follow a Guru that is no 
longer in 
> > the body and that no longer challenge your beliefs. The 
latterday Guru 
> > Dev-fanatics amongst the "new-born-independents" are fooling 
> > themselves, dvelving into a dreamy soothingness of easy harmony 
that 
> > does not excist.
> 
> **END**
> 
> You bring up a very good point and one that concerns me, too. 
> 
> Maharishi has set up several hurdles to establishing a "full"
> guru-disciple relationship (at least for me).  The first one is 
that I
> was "priced out" of discipleship a long time ago.  I attended every
> course for years, each one offering the latest techniques and the 
next
> (and best) unfolding of new petals of knowledge. As a full-time
> initiator it required scrimping and borrowing and soliciting 
sponsors,
> etc., as each new course became more and more important to attend 
yet
> more and more difficult to finance.
> 
> Nevertheless, as access to Maharishi receded farther and farther
> behind the massed phalanx of those whose wealth or status was more
> useful to the movement than a simple initiator/governor --  the
> scientists and the industrialists (and the celebrities), whose
> attendance on Maharishi served to validate (and promote) his 
teachings
> and techniques -- I continued to be devoted to him.
> 
> After a time, however, the message(s) coming out of the movement 
made
> less and less sense to me personally.  I found it harder and 
harder to
> relate to what was being promulgated as the "new" foundations of 
the
> movement.  It's not that I don't understand the potential value of
> Ayurveda or Jyotish or StpathyaVeda, but their ascendency in
> importance within the movement and the continued devaluation of
> meditation and transcending always puzzled me.  With the rise of 
the
> rajas and the trappings attendant upon them and the cumulative 
effect
> of many stories of behavior within the topmost tier of the 
movement I
> found my faith in Maharishi severely shaken.  And, since I no 
longer
> (and for a long time now) have access to him I can neither confront
> him directly for intellectual clarification, nor find confirmation 
of
> his authenticity in my heart by his darshan.  And I neither trust 
nor
> believe the sincerity or motivations of his lieutenants.
> 
> I can connect the dots of all the disparate and puzzling elements 
of
> the movement in such a way that it all makes "sense" and explains
> everything so that it all works out perfectly.  Mr. Brigante does a
> fine job of that and I cannot sincerely deny that his 
understanding or
> belief may not be true.  But I don't "know" that they are and for
> myself the picture thus constructed seems tortured and more along 
the
> lines of rationalizations than simple truths.
> 
> So that leaves me to look to the very foundation of the movement 
and
> that is Guru Dev, the guy that Maharishi taught me to do puja to.  
And
> I do.  And I feel, and quite strongly (based on my own experience),
> that you cannot go wrong if you put your attention on Guru Dev.  We
> all lead ourselves.  The Self leads the self back to the Self.  
It's
> neither easy nor hard, it just is the way it is.  I do consider my
> devotion to Guru Dev to be an "escape" from the bondage under which
> I've lived for so long.  And I'm not just "fooling myself" either.
> 
> I wish I had a clearer understanding of Maharishi and a way to make
> sense out of all the weirdness within the movement.  But, be that 
as
> it may, I am eternally grateful for his teaching, for his 
meditation,
> for his being, and for introducing me to Guru Dev through his own
> person and through puja.  As RAC posted the other day, yaaayy for
> Maharishi for doing what he's done, it's certainly done me a world 
of
> good.
> 
> Jai Guru Dev
> 
> Marek (one of the nutcases)




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