Nice post Marek. If you're a nut case, I'll join your
team anyday! A sincere, devoted inquiry. Not this
lunatic tripe that Lups throwsup (pun intended) as
channeled by his holiness Benjamin Creme
 
--- marekreavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Comment below:
> 
> --- In [email protected], "lupidus108"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >  
> > > > this was a big issue, in the Robin Carlson
> days!
> > > > he claimed to represent the pure Guru Dev, and
> > > > that Maharishi had strayed from it. He
> attracted
> > > > alot of followers in Fairfield around 1982.
> > 
> > Nutcases abound. 
> > 
> > There will always be those souls who take refuge
> in their 
> > escapist "understanding" of Guru Dev rather than
> follow the advice of 
> > his closest disciple Maharishi. 
> > 
> > Why ? Because it is much easier to follow a Guru
> that is no longer in 
> > the body and that no longer challenge your
> beliefs. The latterday Guru 
> > Dev-fanatics amongst the "new-born-independents"
> are fooling 
> > themselves, dvelving into a dreamy soothingness of
> easy harmony that 
> > does not excist.
> 
> **END**
> 
> You bring up a very good point and one that concerns
> me, too. 
> 
> Maharishi has set up several hurdles to establishing
> a "full"
> guru-disciple relationship (at least for me).  The
> first one is that I
> was "priced out" of discipleship a long time ago.  I
> attended every
> course for years, each one offering the latest
> techniques and the next
> (and best) unfolding of new petals of knowledge. As
> a full-time
> initiator it required scrimping and borrowing and
> soliciting sponsors,
> etc., as each new course became more and more
> important to attend yet
> more and more difficult to finance.
> 
> Nevertheless, as access to Maharishi receded farther
> and farther
> behind the massed phalanx of those whose wealth or
> status was more
> useful to the movement than a simple
> initiator/governor --  the
> scientists and the industrialists (and the
> celebrities), whose
> attendance on Maharishi served to validate (and
> promote) his teachings
> and techniques -- I continued to be devoted to him.
> 
> After a time, however, the message(s) coming out of
> the movement made
> less and less sense to me personally.  I found it
> harder and harder to
> relate to what was being promulgated as the "new"
> foundations of the
> movement.  It's not that I don't understand the
> potential value of
> Ayurveda or Jyotish or StpathyaVeda, but their
> ascendency in
> importance within the movement and the continued
> devaluation of
> meditation and transcending always puzzled me.  With
> the rise of the
> rajas and the trappings attendant upon them and the
> cumulative effect
> of many stories of behavior within the topmost tier
> of the movement I
> found my faith in Maharishi severely shaken.  And,
> since I no longer
> (and for a long time now) have access to him I can
> neither confront
> him directly for intellectual clarification, nor
> find confirmation of
> his authenticity in my heart by his darshan.  And I
> neither trust nor
> believe the sincerity or motivations of his
> lieutenants.
> 
> I can connect the dots of all the disparate and
> puzzling elements of
> the movement in such a way that it all makes "sense"
> and explains
> everything so that it all works out perfectly.  Mr.
> Brigante does a
> fine job of that and I cannot sincerely deny that
> his understanding or
> belief may not be true.  But I don't "know" that
> they are and for
> myself the picture thus constructed seems tortured
> and more along the
> lines of rationalizations than simple truths.
> 
> So that leaves me to look to the very foundation of
> the movement and
> that is Guru Dev, the guy that Maharishi taught me
> to do puja to.  And
> I do.  And I feel, and quite strongly (based on my
> own experience),
> that you cannot go wrong if you put your attention
> on Guru Dev.  We
> all lead ourselves.  The Self leads the self back to
> the Self.  It's
> neither easy nor hard, it just is the way it is.  I
> do consider my
> devotion to Guru Dev to be an "escape" from the
> bondage under which
> I've lived for so long.  And I'm not just "fooling
> myself" either.
> 
> I wish I had a clearer understanding of Maharishi
> and a way to make
> sense out of all the weirdness within the movement. 
> But, be that as
> it may, I am eternally grateful for his teaching,
> for his meditation,
> for his being, and for introducing me to Guru Dev
> through his own
> person and through puja.  As RAC posted the other
> day, yaaayy for
> Maharishi for doing what he's done, it's certainly
> done me a world of
> good.
> 
> Jai Guru Dev
> 
> Marek (one of the nutcases)
> 
> 
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