Don't feed the troll. Don't take mantra knowledge from a troll. Enough said.

You would have to be both deaf and blind to not know bij mantras growing 
up in India. :)


biosoundbill wrote:
> Richard,
>
> Most of the TM mantras are listed in the Varada Tantra.
>
> I believe MMY played around with them a little to dilute their 
> power, like making Kriing into ki-ring, Shriing into shir-ing, 
> Hriing into Hi-ring, shyam into she-am, etc
> He really went to town on Saraswati aing,ainga,aim,and aima 
> (Pronounced  i-ing, i-ing-ah, i-im, and i-eem-ah respectively) – was 
> he short on mantras, or what?
>
> Again as I said before, Southern pronunciation is slightly 
> different, they pronounce the `ii' in a bija as the `ee' in the word 
> feet etc,they also tend  to use only the anusvara `M' ending,where 
> the lips are closed pushing the sound up the nasal passages. It 
> sounds more like the `mb' ending in the word Numb!
>
> In the North the `ii' is pronounced more like the `i' in the words 
> ring, bring, fling, etc
> Some Northerners use the anusvara `M' ending, but more use the 
> allegedly more powerful `ng' ending known as anunAsika,-personally I 
> think the anusvara `M' ending is more powerful and grounding in the 
> long term.
>
> The late Harish Johari tended to pronounce the bijas with `ng' 
> endings combined with the `ee' sound as against the `i' sound giving 
> shreeng, hreeng, kreeng, etc
>
> Bottom line no matter what way the bijas are pronounced they are all 
> Tantric.
>
> Namaste,
>
> Billy
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Bhairitu wrote:
>>     
>>> The short bij mantra bobs up and down.  
>>>
>>>       
>> There seems to be some confusion here. Marshy doesn't 
>> give out 'bija' mantras, only the names of the devatas, 
>> the deified heroes of the Hindu tradition, along with 
>> various words and phrases from Sanskrit. Marshy isn't 
>> a tantric yogi in the Nath tradition, therefore he 
>> would not be knowing any actual bija mantras. The tantric 
>> bija mantras are enumerated in the Buddhist Tantras. 
>> There are no bija mantras in the Rig Veda, in the 
>> Upahishads, or in the Puranas. There are no canonical 
>> collections of bija mantras in Hinduism. The Buddhist 
>> bija mantras all originated with the Nath Siddhas when 
>> India was a Buddhist country.
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>   



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