Hey Barry, it must be 6 am in France. Are you up early or have you been up all night?
on 5/30/05 11:40 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The word 'worship' is indeed Bob's. My understanding, > from many Indian sources is that 'namaste' means simply, > "I *greet* or *recognize* the divine or eternal in you." > 'Worship' is another thing entirely, and not connoted > at all. > > Another aspect of 'namah,' which I remember Maharishi > talking about, and have certainly heard other teachers > speaking about, has also to do less with 'worship' than > it does *recognition*. There is a certain value placed > on *recognizing* the eternal in the ephemeral, the value > coming from *identification* with the eternal. If one > cannot *identify* with that with eternal and timeless, > one cannot ever live it in the form of enlightenment. > The idea of 'worship,' if it perpetuates the notion > that there is a *difference* between the eternal and > one's self, is actually counterproductive to enlight- > enment in the view of many traditions. > > Unc > >>> My intention is to understand and >>> discuss. Not attack or make wrong, but understand. Bob B in an >>> early post used the word "worship" when responding to my > inquiry. >> >> ******* >> >> You have completely misunderstood and misrepresented what I said in > a >> previous post. What I said is that Indians, in their gesture of >> greeting "namaste" (namah plus te, "you" in sanskrit) which means >> something like I worship the divine in you. In TM, with advanced >> techniques or not, we are "worshipping" the infinite divine within > by >> transcending, and on the way to transcending, we greet the subtle >> levels of creation on the way, which has a harmonizing influence on >> the meditator and on the creation: >> >> When people meet in India, they bow and say "namaste," which is > about >> the same as what is done in advanced techniques: >> >> http://www.namastecafe.com/library/trans.htm >> >> So, it's traditional in Hindu culture to bow down to the divine in >> everybody, so it's not really an unusual sort of worship to employ >> namah in TM advanced techniques, since one in TM is on the path to >> the universal soul, the transcendental reality which is the divine >> nature. >> >> The purpose of the additional syllables (namah and so on) is to slow >> down transcendence, so that one gains more familiarity with the >> subtle and powerful levels of creation, in order to have a fuller >> experience of Cosmic Consciousness. >> >> Hindus properly practicing advanced TM techniques, as well as those >> practicing basic TM, are instructed to regard the mantras, advanced >> or not, as meaningless sounds during the period of meditation. >> Outside of meditation, Hindus assign values that non-Hindus who >> practise TM do not. But, whether Hindu or not, people who are >> properly practicing TM and its advanced techniques are not thinking >> about gods (or impulses of creative intelligence, or angels, or >> whatever one regards as more powerful, subtle, or celestial levels > of >> existence) or bowing down to gods. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 Fax: 815-472-5842 http://searchsummit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
