--- In [email protected], "boo_lives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maybe chopra was just looking for an excuse to leave and do his own
> thing at that point.  Basically I think someone with a practical
> independent attitude will ultimately come into conflict with the tmo
> inner circle - whether you view it as being kicked out or voluntarily
> leaving in frustration doesn't matter much.

It matters a great deal in one case -- when the person
leaves of his own accord and Maharishi or the TMO claim
he was "kicked out." I saw that happen quite a few times.

It's a common cult technique. What the cult is trying to
do is reinforce the idea that no one would ever *want*
to leave of their own accord. So it's better for the
cult to claim that they were kicked out for "conduct
unbecoming." Or, if they really can't hide the fact
that the person left on their own, to portray them
as crazy.

For balance, it is *not* just the TMO that does this.
I've seen this in many groups. In some of them, this
"trashing the apostate" thing comes directly from the
teacher. In others, as far as I could tell, the 
teacher bore the people who left no ill will at all,
but the *students* made up whole myths about how
the people who left were crazy, or had been "kicked
out." 

It's a pretty fascinating phenomenon in my opinion,
wherever it shows up. I think we're seeing some aspects
of it here on FFL in the people who -- to this day --
seem to have a need to portray Chopra's decision to
leave as a failing of some kind.

As I'm sure Bharitu and Vaj and some others can
attest, it really doesn't have to be like that.
We've all seen spiritual groups where if a student
decides to leave, the teachers wish them well on
their way and say that they're welcome back if
they ever want to come back. That's the way things
should be IMO.




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