Barry is talking about the larger situation, not 
Chopra in particular, and Judy knows it. 

In fact, that's why she's trying to *distract* 
from the larger situation, and try to make it all 
about Chopra, even though I clearly said at the 
beginning of my comments that I knew nothing about
him and couldn't care less about him. I used Chopra
as a springboard to talk about a larger subject -- 
the cult tendencies of the TM movement and how they
manifest when someone walks away. 

THAT is what Judy is attempting to distract people
from. She doesn't LIKE it when someone brings up
the cult nature of the TMO.

Besides, it's late in Judy's "posting week" and 
she only has a few more posts in which to dump on
Barry, so she's getting a little panicky.  

That's a cult thang, too.  :-)  :-)  :-)


--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > > > > It's a common cult technique. What the cult is trying to
> > > > > do is reinforce the idea that no one would ever *want*
> > > > > to leave of their own accord. So it's better for the
> > > > > cult to claim that they were kicked out for "conduct
> > > > > unbecoming." Or, if they really can't hide the fact
> > > > > that the person left on their own, to portray them
> > > > > as crazy.
> > > > 
> > > > Oddly enough, the "cult" did neither in Chopra's
> > > > case.
> > > 
> > > But Judy this is what the cult does every single day, 
> > > I've seen it so many times. It's just one aspect of 
> > > why I can't tkae them seriously anymore.
> > > 
> > > Tapes with Chopra on aren't allowed to be played at 
> > > meetings, practise of Chopras techniques is discouraged. 
> > > Why do they do that if it's all smiles between them?
> > 
> > Exactly. It's the olde "Say one thing publicly
> > but do quite another in private" dodge. That,
> > too, is classic cult behavior.
> > 
> > And the thing is, everyone including Judy is
> > more than *aware* of this hypocrisy; it's just
> > that some still want to point to the "official"
> > public explanation as a way of distracting 
> > attention from the far more pervasive private
> > behavior.
> 
> None of which pervasive private behavior,
> contrary to Barry's original suggestion (see
> quote at the top), claimed that Chopra had
> been "kicked out" of the TMO or that he was
> "crazy."
> 
> Barry got it wrong; he is the one attempting
> to distract attention from that awful fact.
> 
> Nobody, as Barry knows, suggested everything
> was "all smiles" between Chopra and the TMO.
> That's a straw man. Not even the official
> explanation did so. The only difference between
> the official explanation and the private
> behavior is that the official statement was
> phrased to sound as neutral as possible, which
> is what you'd expect from practically any
> organization.
> 
> Once again: In his compulsion to dump on the
> TMO, Barry got it wrong, and to try to cover
> up his mistake, he invents and knowingly falsely
> accuses me of trying to distract attention from
> a nonexistent hypocrisy.
> 
> But now look at this:
> 
> > That's just how things are *done* in the TMO.
> > They can't *allow* anyone to just walk away
> > Scot-free. There has to be a derogatory *reason*
> > why they left. Preferably it's because they were
> > "really" kicked out. If that can't be claimed,
> > then insinuating that the person is crazy is a 
> > good second choice.
> 
> This is his original claim, back from the dead,
> as if it hadn't been conclusively refuted. And
> not one of Barry's own examples of TMers dumping
> on Chopra validates the claim.
> 
> And Barry calls the TMO hypocritical.
>


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