I see your point on the French.  Although I still have a button about 
helping bail them out twice last century, they certainly figured out 
that Viet Nam was a losing proposition.

--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > Conscience?  LOL!!   The French vote their wallet, just like all 
other
> > nations do.  The fact that the French wallet is often in 
competition
> > with the American wallet leads to our conflicts, not any mystical
> > French conscience.
> 
> The French also vote from their experience.  Historically,
> the French have more experience dealing with terrorism 
> than any other country; it started with Morocco in the
> 1950s and continued on from there.  And along the way
> they have made almost every mistake a nation could pos-
> sibly make dealing with terrorism, and have learned a 
> little in the process about what works and what only
> makes things worse.  It was on that basis that they
> rejected the rush to war on Iraq.  There *were* economic
> issues involved, such as the absolute certainty that the
> moment the US went in all existing contracts with France
> would be declared null and void, whether France was "on
> board" or not (that was determined as a result of French
> intelligence reports of what US leaders were planning
> even before the rush to war was announced), but the
> bottom line is that the French are not gonna get involved
> with another unwinnable war against people who are fight-
> ing for their own country, and they're going to advise
> their friends not to do so, either.
> 
> It was the choice of the US, acting like an out-of-
> control drug addict who has hit his friends up for more
> money to buy drugs and has been told No, to consider
> the friend trying to help them an enemy.
> 
> Unc




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