On Jun 1, 2005, at 10:59 PM, Robert Gimbel wrote:

> -If one holds a specific meaning of a mantra, it seems to me, that one
> is not only holding a limiting value of meaning, but is getting caught
> on a superficial level, instead of transcending to the deeper levels
> of consciousness.
> More important than any specific meaning, is the ability to transcend
> using the sound, the vibration, of the mantra.
> The whole misunderstanding of meditation, I believe, is the notion, of
> getting caught up on meaning, rather than transcending all meaning and
> establishing consciousness, in that field which is transcendental to
> all meaning...

"The words, their significance and the relationship between the two are 
eternal." -Vararuchi commenting on Panini.

At one level they are separate, in the transcendent they are one, but 
they are still always connected.



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