--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > > > so is Maharishi Mahesh Yogi your Master or not? 
> > > > If so, you are being rebellious. 
> > > > If not, what's the problem? Who else is telling you what to 
do?
> > > 
> > > There seems to be a big assumption in your discussions
> > > of 'Master,' namely that one must or should do what he/she
> > > says.  
> > 
> > I agree more with your point of view. However if I called 
someone His 
> > Holiness as some call someone we both know of, I'd certainly 
consider 
> > that person my Master, wouldn't you? And with the divine 
> implications, 
> > I'd certainly want to do everything that person said.
> > 
> > If not, I'd do whatever I thought was best. I guess I don't 
equate 
> > Master with a spiritual teacher. They play different roles.
> 
> I choose to *never* associate the term 'Master' with
> spiritual teachers.  It's just a personal thang.  I
> just don't get off behind the "Beam me up Scotty"
> approach to enlightenment, and prefer the "Enlighten-
> ment unfolds to the self by itself" approach.  I'm
> more of a do-it-yourself-er.

Me too.
 
> As Shemp pointed out, there is a value in "identification"
> with a spiritual teacher.  But I personally think that 
> this has been misconstrued by many teachings into the
> belief that one must do everything thing they say unques-
> tioningly for that identification to take place.  What
> one is trying to identify with is a state of conscious-
> ness, not the everyday beliefs and actions of the being
> who wears that state of consciousness.

Agreed. Though it depends where your teacher is, and how everyday 
their beliefs and actions are.
 
> Unc




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