--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So what do you suppose would happen if the United States economy > were to collapse?
The entire world would go through some terrible times, but IMO would be safer and saner as a result. > I take it you're not in need of a job, health care insurance, any > social services , money, food clothing etc. What do you think will > happen to all those Chinese and Indians that we employ directly > or indirectly and all that Arab oil money that feeds the Middle > east? Many of them would be healthier. With all due respect, your knowledge of the world seems as based on Bushite and gung-ho American propaganda as your knowledge of spiritual subjects seems as based on Maharishi propa- ganda. The US does not prop up the Chinese and Arab economies; it's the other way around. In the short term they would lose a great deal of capital as the US abrogated its debts to them, but having an actual economy of their own (as opposed to the US), they would recover and not make the mistake of investing in the US again in the future. > You don't think the US economy would have a "rippling" effect, > and I put that gently, on the rest of the world's economies > who are also either depending on ours or are struggling to keep > their heads above water? On the contrary, I think that the inevitable collapse of the US house-of-cards economy will have a *huge* effect on the rest of the world's economies. I think things will be very, very tough indeed, for a period of time that may last 5 to 10 years. After that, the countries with *real* functioning economies would recover and build on strong foundations (not credit) and would take their rightful place in the global economy network. The US probably would take 10-15 years to do so, if it ever recovered. If it does not, I for one will not shed a single tear. A period of humility as a third-world nation would do them a world of good. > Just think what you would see, no more Made in Japan > or Made in China stickers on anything and nothing on the shelves > to replace them. As I said before, your naivete about how the global economy works is second only to your naivete about how the larger world of spiritual practice and teach- ing works. Sorry, but that's my honest opinion. But then I don't live in the US, so I get real news from real news organizations, so you're working under a handicap in that area. And I'm not limited spiritually to getting the "straight dope" from Maharishi, so I have a great deal more information from which to work in that arena as well. These are Just My Opinions, dude. I am not trying to say that they are correct or Truth, just the way I see things. I'm not trying to sell them to you or convince you. I'm just telling it the way it looks to me, from the vantage point of Paris, France, June 2005. > With a collapsed US economy there wouldn't even be any money > available to restart our own industries... YOUR own economies, Chucko. I don't live there, and never will again. To paraphrase Dr. Emilio Lizardo in Buckaroo Banzai, "It's not my goddamned country, Monkeyboy." :-) :-) :-) > ...that used to make all of those products. Talk > about stem cell research, there wouldn't be enough money for > the government to deliver the mail, hope you're not on SS yet. I don't depend on the US government for anything. That's YOUR problem, not mine. :-) > But maybe you could hunker down some place and survive. I have every intention of doing so, and a whole set of contingency plans for doing so, whatever happens. > ...you'll have a better chance in the South so you > won't freeze to death and you can grow your own food most of > the year, that is if you can find some land to buy with all of > that gold you must have stashed away because that will be the > only thing anybody will take in payment of anything. Already handled. Although "the South" is the south of France. :-) > It really is a shame you hate your country enough that you > would want to bring on a calamity such as this. You don't read well, do you? The US is not my country any more. And, far from hating it, I love it dearly and wish it would get over this fit of insufferable ego and stupidity and ignorance and hatred and greed it's going through. And I wish it would do so peacefully. But those wishes faded with the results of the last election. 40% of Americans didn't even bother to VOTE, man, with every- thing that was on the line in that election. It's not as if I expect them to stand up and change things on their own. I honestly do not see that happening any more. So I reluctantly look for other solutions to the Problem That Is America. It's a big fucking problem. And the solution to the problem is evident, if one just looks at it closely and dispassionately enough. America is BANKRUPT. It has to borrow 2 billion dollars a DAY just to get by. It's an entire nation whose approach to life is the same as an out-of-control housewife on a shopping spree, with a wallet full of credit cards and no money in the bank to pay for what she charge. (If the housewife were willing to kill a few hundred thousand people on the way to the shopping mall, that is.) All that is necessary to stop the deranged juggernaut that is America is for the rest of the world, which props up its fict- ional economy on a daily basis, to stop doing so. America has no money with which to continue its madness at that point. As rough as that possibility would be for the rest of the world, I am convinced it would be better for the world as a whole in the long run. > I'm certainly glad I don't share your pessimism. I'm certainly glad I don't share your brainwashing. :-) > Do you have a problem with depression? Only economic depression. That'll be a bitch, but appears to me to be the only global solution at this point. > By the way the United States is NOT bankrupt it can pay it's > bills easily and still generate more wealth as > long as most of us stay off the Big Government tit. Yeah, and the Age of Enlightenment was established some years ago and TM is unique and the world's gonna come flocking to TM's new Enlightenment Burger franchises and feel all fuzzy and warm about a bunch of bozos running around in long robes wearing Burger King hats, too. :-) Like I said, this is OPINION, dude. If you don't like it, I don't think it's productive spend your energy demonizing me for holding it. You might try forming your OWN opinion. I suspect it would be a refreshing change for you. Signing off...if you wish to continue to beat this partic- ular dead horse, you will find it riderless. Life's too short to argue over simple opinion. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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