--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Extrapolating from this, it seems to me that if MMY > > > really wanted people to levitate, and was enlightened > > > himself, what he'd do is sit them down in a room with > > > him and demonstrate levitation. Their bodies would > > > learn the siddhi far more quickly and far more > > > effectively than they would practicing some made-up > > > "technique" in English. > > > > This is what Muktananda did with his students, no ? > > I don't know much about him, so I can't commment. > > > Problem is that they are dependent of the shakti of the > > teacher to perform the siddhi, in the same way as the > > students of Rama were. That is if Rama students had > > independent experiences ofcourse. > > Just to clarify, Rama never claimed that he was > trying to *teach* the siddhis to his students; he > just demo'd them. Occasionally, he would demo some- > thing like being able to see the future or read > other people's minds and many of us in the audience > would "pick up on something" and be able to do it > ourselves later, but it wasn't really an "I'm going > to teach you how to do this" scenario. > > As for the "boost" that one gets from the shakti > or energy of the teacher not being permanent, I > agree with you completely. It's sometimes *useful*, > if that energy can "lift you" to the point where > you can have, for example, far deeper experiences > of meditation and samadhi than you normally exper- > ience on your own, and having experienced them > clearly helps you "get back" to those same exper- > iences later, *on your own*. But otherwise, shakti > junkies are just like any other kind of junkie in > my opinion. I don't see the "hit" that one gets > from a teacher as being terribly useful in the > long run *unless* it leads to being able to repeat > the deeper experience of things *on one's own*. > > If you can't do it *on your own* later, then what > use was the glimpse of something you got while in > the teacher's presence, eh? At best it's just a > "travelogue," a glimpse into your own future to > give you hope. > > > And that is why Muktananda praised Maharishi for giving > > knowledge for the whole world independent of him personally > > because he saw that Maharishis role was more universal and > > has effect beyond a small group of students. > > When Maharishi leaves we can go on and on with the practise > > independent of his shakti. > > True. You can go on with practices THAT DON'T WORK > for as long as you want. :-)
It works very well thank. ;-)