--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you for this post, Guy, I found it incredible and inspiring > reading. > > I would point out your use of and reference to MMY as a "master" > and, in particular, YOUR master. This is great and I am happy for > you that you have actually found a master in this lifetime and have > successfully entered into a relationship with him. > > But please be aware that this is NOT the TM program; it's something > else. From reading your post, it's a very great and profound thing, > but not TM. > > And it is not MY path. My path is TM which doesn't > include "masters" (it doesn't EXCLUDE them, but they are neither > necessary nor are they part of the program of what, according to the > founder and chief promulgator of the program, is needed to obtain > full enlightenment). > > As for celibacy, it is my personal opinion that celibacy is > incredibly compatible with TM. My experience with TM is that there > are two areas of life that are profoundly influenced and enhanced by > TM (and vice-versa) and the benefits thereof are exponential because > of the TM component. > > One is hatha yoga and the other is celibacy. > > I attend hatha yoga classes (the Iyengar method) several times a > week. The results I get are very profound and, naturally, I assume > at the end of class that everyone else is on the same high as I am > (especially felt during the lay-down). Sure, people feel great as a > result of the physical "exercise" but almost never do they express > that they are feeling the results and "change of consciousness" that > I do. I attribute it to my many years of TM practise. > > As for celibacy: I can't say that I am totally celibate. Yes, I > have gone through periods in my 20s (periods that included the 6- > month course and other TM residential courses) in which I was > completely celibate. My experience? The results of TM appeared (at > least on the subjective side!) to be exponentially greater...and > they included numerous experiences of the types you so incredibly > and beautifully described in your post. Alot of things happening > along the spine. > > I'm now 50 and out in the "real world" for about 25 years...always > aspired to hold on to the celibacy ideal but have come to the > conclusion that living in this particular culture is NOT condusive > to "full" celibacy. Geez, every billboard on every block has some > babe strutting her stuff at me, not to mention the nubile young > sweets on the streets who really don't clothe themselves all that > much here in the dessert...but I digress... > > Holding out for two weeks is, for me, pretty much all I can handle. > Up to "losing" my seed my meditation IS more powerful and, yes, > there is an experience of "loss" when the ejaculation happens...but > the frustration and anxiety that the culture that surrounds me puts > on me until then is, I believe, more damaging. > > Quite applicable to your wonderful post are the following excerpts > from Swami Muktananda's book "Satsang with Baba, Volume 5", pp 180- 2: > > "To become an urdhvareta, not only must you be a strict celibate > throughout your life, but you must also receive the Guru's grace. > Your Kundalini must be awakened, and the Shakti must reverse the > direction in which the semen flows -- from downward to upward. A > celibate will not necessarily become an urdhvareta; an ordinary > celibate is simply a celibate, not an urdhvareta. Urdhvareta is a > sttate that comes through meditation. The semen, which normally > flows downward, begins to folw upward as a result of meditation. It > reaches the place of the gastric fire above the navel, and when it > falls into the gastric fire it produces thrilling sensations. After > it has been purified in the gastric fire, it rises up into the > sahasrar and then spreads through all the nerves." > > "One turns to sex for a certain kind of enjoyment. If you could get > the same pleasure, in fact, far superior pleasure, woithout the > physical sex act, why would you go after it?" > > "The bliss experienced by an urdhvareta is a million times greater > than the pleasure experienced by the downward flow of semen."
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