Anon, you are entirely too sane and too clear in your thinking for this newsgroup. Disgusting how you think you are soooooo superior to us. ;-)
--- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder how many reading FFL can relate > experientially to what Guy > Banner had to say about celibacy? > > I personally never had such an amazing experience > with Maharishi as > Guy described. But I did discover after spending > some months on TTC > with Maharishi many years ago, that the same change > in physiology > that Guy described had happened to me (urdhavaretas > - energy > naturally going up). > > So I think Vaj's skepticism is misplaced. Maharishi > really is > capable of producing this effect on his students, > whether it is in > the space of 30 seconds of direct attention, or > several months of > darshan and meditation as taught by him. (Side note: > some weeks > back, Vaj posted some lengthy quotes about practices > to promote > energy going up. I don't remember the details other > than frequent > reference to the "secret chakra". I can't say > whether these > practices are worthwhile or not. But they, as well > as Mantak Chia > (Taoist) type practices brought up by LBShriver in > the past, strike > me as a remarkable amount of effort to achieve > something that > happened to me without my even intending it - > side/side note to Vaj - > get that Vaj - no effort was involved, not even > intention!) > > I also am married. My wife and I experience a good > deal of affection > for one another. A marriage can be celibate and be a > happy marriage, > as long as it is not a strain or an ideal that is > strived for or > something like that. It needs to be a simple > reflection of the > reality of two human physiologies, and both partners > need to be > comfortable with the arrangement. > > Guy was absolutely correct when he stated that > celibacy is not a > practice but a state of physiology. In that state, > there is nothing > to practice. And there is no feeling of lack. > Pleasure and bliss > come in many forms. The experience of sexual orgasm > is only one of > them. TurquoiseB's comments along the lines of "at > least the rest of > us are getting laid but you're not" really just > reflect on the range > of experiences that TurquoiseB has had, so he is > being true to > himself in saying these kinds of things. But they > really fall short > of the mark when commenting on Guy's experiences. > > I am guessing that Alex Stanley's remarks reflect on > what is > currently going on for him in his own spiritual path > - that is, > discovering that the ulimate truth doesn't depend on > flashy > experiences, is itself ultimately simple. But I hope > that doesn't > blind him from accepting the possibility that > another person's > celibacy is a natural state for him. Saniel Bonder's > Waking Down > philosophy and practice may have a handle on some > significant > truths, but there may be more things in Heaven and > Earth than are > dreamt of in his philosophy. It's a good idea to > keep an open mind. > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
