--- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> > 
> > ----You like coming back at opinions with less than one liners.  
> But they are meaningless. Often. How about explaining how talking 
> about interstellar dark matter and so on is anything less than 
> egotism and elitism.
> 
> How about explaining how you can hope to keep up with John 
Hagelin's 
> understanding, however skewed it may be, of such things?
> 
> 
> -----I keep up with him by not needing to keep up with him.
> 
> 

Um, yeah.

> 
> > 
> > As with many people who have made themselves immune to formal 
> discussion by taking the most esoteric POV that they could muster, 
> Haeglen also has made himself a heavenly arbour bower in his mind.  
> One of math and physics, none of which can at present be proven. He 
> is a pseudo scientist, not a real scientist.  He gave up his lab 
> jacket for an open ticket to Maharishi mano a mano.
> > 
> 
> 
> That might be, but again, what evidence do we have that you are 
> capable of judging Hagelin's credentials, current or former, when 
it 
> comes to science?
> 
> 
> ----I go by what his peers say and they consider him a quack.
> 
> 

Who are his peers?

> > I never heard him say one thing to another person that wasn't 
> completely condescending. It's all theory. Do you think Lawson that 
> that's what enlightenment is?  Some extra special theoritician-
> ability?
> >
> 
> I've had face-to-face meetings with Hagelin where we discussed 
> esoteric theories. I never got the impression that he was being 
> condenscending to me. Of course, perhaps I am too unsubtle to catch 
> the nuances that you are able to catch?
> 
> 
> I spent four years at MIU as part of his congregation.
> 
> 

So every remark he made to another person was condenscending?







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