Today, I posted a rational observation of a physiological phenomenon
under the thread Experience Query.  Almost immediately it drew an email
from a chap named ed with and email [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I am not sure why
he felt this email was not worthy of posting on the discussion board for
all to see.  I want to post it, to see who else is bothered by my
ramblings.

Here is the note with my annotations, it begins with a quote from my
post:

"....I would not read any mystical value in this experience as did
Paul on the road to Damascus. That lost soul started a whole religion
based on optic nerve inflammation. How many people died because of
that mistake?..."

Paul didn't start a Religion, many people started studying and
following "x".

By "x" ed is referring to Josh.  Those inclined towards Latin
transliterate the Hebrew Yeshua as Jesus but that would indicate to me
an inability to understand fundamental rules of text translation.  I
tend to discount the credibility of texts that have been abused through
mistranslation.

Paul in fact did start a religion.  Before Paul showed up, Josh and his
family had begun a Jewish cult.  It was not radically different than
mainstream Judaism of the period.  James and his buddies wear accepted
by fellow Jews as well as the Romans.  There is no evidence during this
period that their little cult was in any kind of jeopardy.

If we are to believe his story, Paul had some form of neurological
breakdown some 60 years after Josh had a run in with Roman authorities. 
He managed to reinterpret Josh's very Jewish proclamations and using
Roman pagan mythology made some changes.

He evoked the Dionysian myth (echoed in the myth of Isis) of a god dying
for others sins.  This form of martyrdom was foreign to Judaism but is
quite common in Greco-Roman theology.

In order to make his new religion more palatable he eschewed many of the
laws and regulations special to Judaism.  Most notably were the Kosher
laws.  Strangely he cherry picked which laws to keep from the 5 books. 
Slavery was fine, 10 Commandments good, Bar Mitzvah bad, cleansing
rituals bad.  It seemed arbitrary but it did help in getting new Roman
converts.  After all Romans like their pork.

I could go on.  I could suggest some scholarly texts to back up my
conclusions.  But I prefer to keep my comments brief.

I asked why you used xianity instead of Christianity and now
have the complete answer.

I should have capitalized Xianity.  This was my mistake.  I am human.

I'm curious, what makes you think that Maharishi didn't have
experiences based on disease or malfunctioning physiology?
Maybe this entire Enlightenment thing is just a mirage.

To me this entire Enlightenment thing is a mirage.  Enlightenment is a
very unclear concept. It is a word with so many meanings to be utterly
useless.  I pitch it with other words that have acquired historical
meaningless like soul and god.  Both loaded words have so many
historical meanings to different people they are rendered impractical. 
To use these words with any accuracy requires paragraphs of explanation
to ease the mind of the reader.

However Enlightenment as a verb makes some sense to me this way:  As I
practice yoga I notice changes in my engagement the world around me.  As
these changes are generally for the better, improved communications,
creative solutions, cheerful demeanor and so on, I take this as the verb
Enlightenment.  It suggest a movement, a vector, a path towards an ideal
called Enlightenment.

Yes, indeed I recognize all ideals as mirages.  But that does not mean
they are bad.  I refer you to Plato for this line of thinking.  He said
it better than I could.

I am not sure if MMY would agree with me or not.  But he is not around
anymore to argue the point.  So I win.

Also, what is your Religious background.

An anonymous guy on the internet is asking me a deeply personal
question.  Why should I respond?  Incidentally, where I come from we put
question marks at the end of questions.

i'll bet that if anyone started to knock it, you'd complain to
Rick or label them Anti-this or that.

I like Rick.  As far as I can see from his posts he is fair and honest. 
But it would be impossible for me to complain to him about anti-this or
that.

For me, identity is something I regard with caution.  As soon as I
identify myself as a "TMer" or "Father" or "Boy Scout Leader" I question
the validity of these categories.  These identities are at best fiction.
They don't exist except as illusion.

My guess is that Rick is on the same page as me.  Unless someone is
identifying with something truly dangerous like White Supremacy, or
Child Rapist, I am guessing he has tolerance to allow their words to
flow here on FFL.  I think the Existentialists, Lutherans, Dualists, and
Tupperware Salesmen on this group have nothing to fear from Rick.

If you're so inclined, i'm eager for you to respond.

ed

So happy to fulfill your eagerness.  Who are you Ed?  Why do you hate
"x" enough to provoke me at my private email address rather than in full
view of the group?  Why can you not conduct your self as a good xtian
with love in your heart?



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