---No. Mostly wrong. First, the Puja is a "necessary" part of TM 
since the Shakti energy which enlivens the mantra is conveyed in part 
through the Puja.  Taking away one part of the program after another 
results in a technique devoid of Shakti. One might as well just get 
the mantra from a book and practice on your own.
 Speaking of cults, do you mean as in Benjamin Creme's "Maitreya"?


 In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Mr. Ed" <the_edvark@> wrote:
> >
> >    I just joined the FFL group today and just want to say I'm 
> > enjoying the posts and wide range of outlooks. 
> >    I learned the TM technique off campus, no puja.
> 
> Very good, Puja is not necessary. 
> 
>  I just wanted to 
> > make sure I wasn't doing the contempt prior to investigation 
thing. 
> > Having spent a fair amount of time researching and practicing 
> various 
> > meditation styles (more 'buddhistic' usually) I can say from this 
> > outsiders very circumspect viewpoint that the benefits of TM are 
> very 
> > real and readily quantifiable and I would suggest learning TM to 
> > anyone.
> 
> Be careful, the Puja thingy is very tricky, they bow down to a 
Vedic 
> Master ! Buddhist should not bow down to anyone !
> 
>  I would though, and do, suggest to people that they learn off 
> > campus and avoid the Movement.
> 
> Very important, you are well adviced and wise.
> 
>  Sadly, I've seen at close range, 
> > people in my immediate social circles who've suffered from their 
> lack 
> > of caution.
> 
> Yes, what happened to them ? Became vegetarians probably. Started 
to 
> burn insence and wear shawls ? Very strange, even dangerous stuff !
> 
>  I get minimalization and denial from some of my favorite 
> > Ru friends when this is mentioned.....so I worry a bit.
> 
> Don't worry, you are the sane person. They are lost to a cult.
> 
> 
> >    No group, political ,social, or spiritual thats last for any 
> > amount of time goes without the need of reform.
> 
> Agreed. Reform is vital. Better turn things upside down every so 
> often. Gives a fresh outlook. Traditions are just a burden.
> 
>  I'd like to pose this 
> > question: is there within the autocracy of the TM movement any 
> > realization of the need for change...........or is it just fringe 
> > people that are making noise about the dishonsty, the harm, the 
> > oppressive secrecy that are the definitive characteristics of the 
> TM 
> > organization as the rest of the world see's it?
> 
> You see, these are cult-people. They don't really care much about 
the 
> opinions of wise souls like yourself, representative of a very 
> strong, healthy society as you are. No, forget about them, they are 
> lost.
> 
> 
> >    I'm a monotheist (of sorts) but I practice a combination of 
> > buddhist meditation and holosync meditation developed by Bill 
> Harris 
> > who left the movement some time ago.
> 
> Very good. Mix as many different techniques you can find ! Just 
blend 
> it all together. Then, and only then will you be able to have clear 
> experiences of your good nature.
> 
>  Being a rather adventurou seeker 
> > myself I have respect for any who come to TM to develope 
> spiritually.
> 
> But be careful. I'm sure some of your friends could become 
> interested. It's important that you stress that they should learn 
> from someone who is not connected to a cult, and does not perform 
any 
> kind of "Puja".
> 
>  
> > I LOVE Fairfield and I dearly love my meditator friends.
>  But I have 
> > concerns and would love to see the special community North of 
town 
> > become what many decent good hearted TM'ers would like it to.
> 
> What would that be ?
> 
>  
> >    Or in the wake of Maharishi's passing will we see a 
solidifying 
> of 
> > this autocracy that in my possibly incorrect opinion, perpetuates 
> > occult psuedo science and mind control?
> 
> Probably both. Better stay away from it, it could be very dangerous 
> indeed !
> 
> 
> >    I don't intend to be antagonistic, but this strikes me as 
group 
> > where I might get a variety of viewpoints, all of which I'd 
> > appreciate.
> 
> No doubt about that ! :-)
> 
>  I'd like to know what people think.  Thanks
> > 
> >                    Apologetic for any presumptousness,
> >                                            Ed Raines
> >
>


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